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William James Minter

Male 1888 - 1940  (52 years)


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  • Name William James Minter 
    Born 16 Apr 1888  Woolwich, London Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Christened 17 Jun 1888  St Mary Magdalene, Woolwich, London Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Gender Male 
    _UID DB172C83932A4A6483D9430AB64CB758C67F 
    Died 21 May 1940  Bruce Grove, Tottenham, London Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Notes 
    • 1911 census: at 91 Bruce Castle Road, Tottenham, London (5 rooms), William (head, 23, married, professional footballer, worker, born Woolwich, Kent), Elizabeth (wife, 22, married 3 year, 2 children both living, born Woolwich, Kent), William (son, 2, born Tottenham, Middlesex), Edith (2, daughter, born Tottenham, Middlesex) and Edith WHYBROW (sister in law, 20, single, tennis ball sewer, worker, at home, born Woolwich, Kent).

      William enlisted in the Royal Engineers on 3 May 1915, aged 27 years 17 days, a whellwright of 91 Bruce Castle Rd, Tottenham, London. Next of kin wife Elizabeth Minter, same address, whom he married on 2 May 1908 at St Thomas Church, Woolwich. Three children listed, William John Thomas born 30 Aug 1908, Elizabeth Edith born 30 Aug 1908 and Dorothy May born 14 Jul 1914, all at East Tottenham.
      He was promoted to Sergeant on 11 June 1915, servedin France from 17 November 1915 and was wounded in 1917. Some of his service records are mostly difficult to read. Service no. 96001. He received the Meritorious Service Medal. Assessed to be a very good wheelwright.
      One document indicates that William had earlier service with the Royal Garrison Artillery from which he bought himself out for £18 on 22 February 1907. As a result of re-enlisting William got half of this back.

      William James, as Billy Minter, played for and managed Tottenham Hotspurs between 1908 and 1929.

      The following appeared in August 2007 on the website at http://archive.mehstg.com/fact_minter.htm

      Born on 16th April 1888 in Woolwich, London

      Began his career as an amateur for Norwich City and Woolwich Arsenal, while a soldier in World War I. (see above)

      Impressed as a forward for Arsenal Reserves in a London League game at Tottenham on 8th September 1906, but when he left the armed services, he joined Reading as a professional.

      Spent 18 months at Elm Park before coming to White Hart Lane with Ernie Coquet for a total cost of £500 for the pair of players in February 1908.

      Minter was a serving sergeant in the Tottenham Royal Engineers during World War I and he won the Meritorious Service medal for his work in the army.

      A determined goalscorer, Billy made an immediate impact on the side with his strike-rate. In his time at Tottenham, he scored 95 goals in 243 League appearances, which was a club record which stood until 1930 and is tenth in the all-time goalscoring charts for the club now (mid 2007).

      His goals helped Tottenham to the 1910 London FA Challenge Cup and the 1920 Second Division title, before he moved into training at the end of that season. He was still a player then, as he was when he eventually took over as manager in February 1927.

      Performed trainer duties for England when they played Wales in Wrexham in March 1926 and then eight days later, he played for Tottenham in place of Frank Osborne, who was ill ahead of the match and he turned out as a forward against Hull City in a friendly. His last match as a player came on 29th April 1926 for the "A" Team at our Cheshunt training ground against Waltham Comrades.

      His tenure as manager ended when he gave way to Percy Smith in November 1929. This was not the end of his time at Spurs though, as he stayed on the staff at the club for another four years as a reserve team trainer, assistant manager, part-time first team trainer and club scout. Minter was assistant secretary from 1933 until his death on May 21st 1940 at his home in Bruce Grove, Tottenham.

      Cliff Minter has contributed two more pieces about Billy Minter:
      April 1919. Crystal Palace versus Tottenham Hotspur. The Spurs were the first to settle down and the forwards led by Elliott displayed a better mastery. Minter scored for them after twenty five minutes. Spurs: Joacques, Clay and Barton, Fraser, Grimsdell and Tomkins, Darnell, Minter, Elliott, Bank and Dockray.
      1929-30. In the November Billy Minter resigned his post as manager and a few weeks later he was succeeded by Percy Smith who until that time was manager of Bury. Mr Minter who had previously served Spurs as player and later trainer remained with us in an administrative capacity until his death during the war.
    Person ID I39  Woolwich, London
    Last Modified 20 Dec 2011 

    Father Thomas Minter,   b. Abt 1845, Winstone, Gloucestershire Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Mar 1916, Woolwich RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 71 years) 
    Mother Ann TOGWELL,   b. 31 Aug 1845, Steeple Ashton, Wiltshire Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Mar 1932, Edmonton RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 86 years) 
    Married 9 Oct 1865  Parish Church, Woolwich Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    • Married by banns. Thomas Minter, of age, bachelor, driver Royal Artillery, of Artillery Barracks, father William Minter, farmer. Ann Togwell, minor, spinster of Artillery Place, father William Togwell, waterman. Thomas signed, Ann marked. Witnesses James Wakefield and Hannah Sparrow both signed.
      Thomas's army service record also notes his marriage details as taking place on 9 October 1865 at Woolwich, Kent. However, the witnesses' names are shown as Pte. William Minter and Pte William Togwell. The latter was probably Ann's brother, who would have been about 22 at the time of the marriage. Pte. William Minter's identity has yet to be established: it's unlikely to have been Thomas's father but if was Thomas's brother it may be a clue to Thomas's ancestry.
    Family ID F3  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Elizabeth Eliza WHYBROW,   b. Abt 1889,   d. 21 Feb 1958, Tottenham, London Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 69 years) 
    Married 2 May 1908  St Thomas Church, Woolwich, London Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    Children 
     1. Elizabeth Edith Minter,   b. 30 Aug 1908, East Tottenham, London Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Jan 1999, West Surrey RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 90 years)
     2. William John Thomas Minter,   b. 30 Aug 1908, East Tottenham, London Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Mar 1996, N Tyneside RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 87 years)
     3. Dorthy May Minter
     4. Marjorie Vera Minter,   b. 2 Dec 1919, Edmonton RD Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Oct 1999, Southampton RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 79 years)
    Last Modified 8 Sep 2009 20:25:00 
    Family ID F19  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - 16 Apr 1888 - Woolwich, London Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - 21 May 1940 - Bruce Grove, Tottenham, London Link to Google Earth
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  • Documents
    Billy Minter, manager of Tottenham Hotspur 1927 - 29
    Billy Minter, manager of Tottenham Hotspur 1927 - 29
    The article is part of ‘Norman Giller’s Spurs Odyssey Blog No. 130, 27 June 2016’, by the eponymous Norman Giller. It is reproduced with Norman's agreement; he comments "That was the only photo I could find of Billy, apart from a foggy one of him playing that could, frankly, be anybody."

  • Sources 
    1. [S3] BMD index.
      Q2 1888 Woolwich 1d/1178.

    2. [S16] London Metropolitan Archive at Ancestry.co.uk, Nov 2010.

    3. [S3] BMD index.
      aged 52, Q2 1940 Edmonton 3a/1099. Date and place from http://archive.mehstg.com/fact_minter.htm

    4. [S7] Marriage certificate (copy).
      Q4 1865 Greenwich 1d/1253.

    5. [S3] BMD index.
      Q2 1908 Woolwich 1d/2070. Date & place from WW1 service record.