 1890 - 1968 (77 years)
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| Name |
Robert William Minter |
| Birth |
19 Dec 1890 |
Beckenham, Kent [1] |
| Gender |
Male |
| Death |
21 Mar 1968 |
Bromley, Kent [2, 3] |
| Cremation |
27 Mar 1968 |
Honor Oak Crematorium (Southwark) [3] |
| Reference Number |
897 |
| _UID |
DF273FBB13194A209F2272E940569EF0D672 |
| Notes |
- It seems very likely that with Gertrude Alice WEEDON, Robert was the father of William Joseph Minter who was born on 15 March 1915 at 59 Blandford Road, Beckenham. William's birth certificate gives the following information:
Father: Robert William MInter, a carrier's carman
Mother: Gertrude Alice Weedon, a domestic servant
Informants: R W Minter, father, 9 Green Lane, Penge; G A Weedon, mother, 9 Green Lane, Penge.
This information ties in well with Robert and Gertrude's story prior to 1915:
- in the 1911 census Robert was living with his parents at 77 Parish Lane, Penge which is literally just round the corner from 9 Green Lane. Robert's occupation was carrier's carman
- at the same census, 1911, Gertrude (18, born Penge) was a servant at 87 Ridsdale Road, Anerley which is a mile or so from Green Lane.
Although Robert married in 1918 and appears in the 1921 census (see below), William Joseph wasn't with him.
Gertrude appears to have married Charles E LOWE in Q2 1916 (Lewisham 1d/2261). She was in the 1921 census as Gertrude Alice LOWE (wife, 28y 7m, married, born Penge) with 5 children all surnamed LOWE: Robert Edward (8y 1m, born Farnborough, Kent, whole time school), Joseph William (6y 5m, born Beckenham, whole time school), Charles Albert (4y 6m, born Sydenham, Kent), Gertrude Frances (3y 1m, born Sydenham, Kent) and Alice May (1y 9m, born Sydenham, Kent). The last three of these children were registered as LOWE but Robert Edward was registered as WEEDON (Q2 1913 Bromley 2a/1164) and Joseph William was almost certainly the William Joseph MINTER who was registered in Q2 1915, Bromley 2a/1024.
The census page notes that Gertrude's husband is in St Johns Hospital, Lewisham.
So although it isn't 100% definite, William Joseph Minter was probably Robert William Minter's illegitimate son. I've put a copy of the latter's birth certificate on Robert William's page on Minter Exchange.
1921 census: at 22 Argyle Road, Penge, Surrey (all MINTER), Robert (head, 28y 6m, married, born Beckenham, painter with Wills of South Norwood), Jane (wife, 23y 4m, born Walworth, home duties), Lucy (daughter, 2y 8m, born Penge) and Violet (daughter, 1y 3m, born Penge).
1939 Register: at 6 Queen Adelaide Road, Penge, Kent
Minter, Robert W born 19 Dec 1891 *, married, general labourer - unemployed
Minter, Jane born 3 Feb 1898, married, unpaid domestic duties
--- 1 closed record ---
Minter, John F born 7 Apr 1925, single, junior assistant
Minter, later MANZI, Marie born 5 May 1929, at school
--- 1 closed record ---
* a year out - registered in Q1 1891 so probably born in 1890.
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| Person ID |
I897 |
Ash, Kent |
| Last Modified |
14 Mar 2024 |
| Father |
John Fagg Minter, b. 24 Oct 1860, 10 St Peters Street, Folkestone, Kent d. 28 Feb 1919, 11 Raleigh Road, Penge, Kent (Age 58 years) |
| Mother |
Sarah Ann HUTCHING, b. Jun 1859, Moreton, Essex d. Dec 1930, Croydon RD (Age ~ 71 years) |
| Marriage |
Dec 1885 |
Croydon, Surrey [2] |
| Family ID |
F199 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
| Family 1 |
Jane Emily GIBSON, b. 3 Feb 1898, Walworth, Surrey d. 14 Feb 1953, Bromley, Kent (Age 55 years) |
| Marriage |
5 Mar 1918 |
Register Office, Croydon, Surrey [4] |
- Married by certificate. Robert William Minter, 25, bachelor, builder's labourer late a Private R W Kent Regt of 11 Rayleigh Road, Penge, father John Fagg Minter, stone-mason. Jane Emily Gibson. 20. spinster of 18 Arpley Road, Penge, father Joseph Gibson, dock labourer. Witnesses D White, J Gibson, M A Heasman.
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| Children |
| | 1. Lucy J Minter, b. Dec 1918, Penge, Surrey d. Sep 1937, Croydon, Surrey (Age ~ 18 years) |
| | 2. Violet L Minter, b. 12 Mar 1920, Penge, Surrey d. Feb 2001, Bromley RD (Age 80 years) |
| | 3. Robert William Minter, b. 19 Apr 1922, Croydon, Surrey d. 13 Jun 2008, Dudley, West Midlands (Age 86 years) |
| | 4. John F E Minter, b. 7 Apr 1925, Croydon, Surrey d. Mar 1942, Bromley, Kent (Age 16 years) |
| | 5. Marie Ellen Minter, b. 2 May 1929, Croydon, Surrey d. 28 Feb 2008, Kent (Age 78 years) |
| | 6. Sylvia Kathleen Minter |
| | 7. Stella Anne Minter, b. 1 Mar 1944, Bromley RD d. 25 Nov 2013, Australia (Age 69 years) |
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| Family ID |
F175 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
| Last Modified |
4 May 2016 |
| Family 2 |
Lily WILSON, b. 25 Sep 1905 d. Dec 1981, Eastbourne RD (Age 76 years) |
| Marriage |
Dec 1954 |
Surrey N RD [5] |
| Family ID |
F1431 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
| Last Modified |
29 Jun 2016 |
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| Documents |
 | William Joseph Minter born 1915 Almost certainly the son of Robert William Minter (1890). His mother married Charles E Lowe in 1916 and William Joseph adopted the surname Lowe. |
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| Sources |
- [S25] BMD list, Q1 1891 Bromley 2a/423. (Reliability: 3).
- [S25] BMD list.
- [S289] www.deceasedonline.com, April 2012 and later.
- [S28] Marriage certificate (copy).
- [S3] BMD index, Q4 1954 Surrey N 5g/612. (Reliability: 3).
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