Henry Bradley Minter

1817 - 1859  (42 years)

• Name	Henry Bradley Minter
  Birth	2 Mar 1817	East Walworth, Surry   [1]
  Christening	16 Sep 1821	St. George The Martyr, Southwark, Surrey   [1]
  Gender	Male
  _UID	08A254CA8F214338BC955F699B0977D5FC11
  Death	24 Nov 1859	Greenwich, London   [2, 3]
  Burial	30 Nov 1859	Greenwich Cemetery, Greenwich, London   [4]
  Notes	September 2020: ever since I created this record, I have assumed that Henry's name, in full, was Henry Daniel Minter, but I can't now find any justification for this assumption. There's a baptismal record at familysearch.com for a Henry Bradley Minter. The details (copied from familysearch.org) are as follows: Name: Henry Bradley Minter Names Note: Abode: East Walworth Event Type: Christening Event Date: 16 Sep 1821 Event Place: Southwark, Surrey, England, United Kingdom Event Place (Original): St. George The Martyr, Southwark, Surrey, England Gender: Male Birth Date: 2 Mar 1817 Father's name: Wm. Minter Mother's Name: H... Minter I think these details almost certainly refer to the Henry who is the subject of these Notes and so, although the middle name Bradley doesn't seem to appear on any other document, I'm adopting it here. 1841 census: at George Yard, Lambeth (apparently a separate house from his mother, also in George Yard), Henry (20, fisherman), Phoebe (20) and Phoebe (6 months). All born Surrey. When Henry Daniel was baptised in 1845, his parents were shown as Henry & Phoebe Maria, of John Street, Henry a fisherman. When William John was baptised in 1848, his parents were shown as Henry & Phoebe, of 15 New Street, Henry a labourer. 1851 census: at 3 Miles Street, Greenwich, Henry (34, labourer), Phoebe (31), Henry (6), Rebecca (4) and William (2). This was the address when John Deane was baptised in February 1851 and buried in April 1851 aged 5 months. When Harriet Ann baptised 1855, her parents were shown as Henry & Catherine, of Old Woolwich Road, Henry a labourer. Same address when Harriet Ann died a month later. When children Francis Daniel and Alice Emma were baptised on the same day in 1859, their parents were shown as Henry & Catherine, of East Street, Henry a labourer. There is some uncertainty about what happened to Henry Minter in the 1850s. It would seem that some time between 30 March 1851 (when the 1851 census was taken) and 1 December 1851 (when Henry married Catherine Clinker), Henry's first wife Phoebe "disappeared". Despite extensive searching, no trace of her whatsoever after the 1851 census can be found. If she died, the death does not appear to have been registered. November 2010: thanks to Christine Small - it seems likely that Phoebe died in 1851 and that the entry in the BMD index for Phoebe Maria MINTON in Q3 at Bury St Edmunds 13/295 refers to her. It was originally thought that the Henry Minter who appeared on the 1851 census with Phoebe, and the Henry Minter who married Catherine Clinker in 1851, were different people. However the following information, courtesy of Carol Kilford, has persuaded us that this was not so. Carol wrote in May 2006 in an email to Christine Small: "1. Both [the Henry who married Phoebe and the Henry who married Catherine] were born around 1816. 2. My cousin who sat at the knee of her grandmother, Rebecca Minter daughter of Henry of Lambeth, wrote to me that Henry died on board a cable laying ship on his last voyage. Your Henry died aboard a coastal vessel in 1859. 3. My ancestor Rebecca Minter was sent off to her maternal grandfather in Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk pre 1867. Was this because her father had died and stepmother felt unable to look after the children of both marriages? 4. The last child of Henry & Phoebe was bapt in 1848 Lambeth, and the first of Henry & Catherine 1853 in Charlton, London. The time periods dovetail. 5. None of the Christian names of the children of the two families are duplicated. 6. Henry & Phoebe were known to be living in Greenwich at the time of the 1851 census. Catherine is living in Greenwich at the time of Henry's death in 1859**. 7. The Henry who married Catherine was a widower. His father was William Minter a shoemaker. The Henry who married Phoebe, his father was William Minter a shoemaker. " ** thanks to Simon Scowen, we now have a copy of Henry's death certificate. It shows that Henry died on 24 November 1858 on board the ship Warwick(?) off Port Greenwich. Henry was 43, a stoker. He died of diarrhoea & dysentry. The informant, on 26 Novenber, was Catherine Minter of 6 Bennett Street, Greenwich, who was present at the death. 1861 census: at 14 East Street, St Alphage Greenwich, Catherine (widow, 44, charwoman), Alice (8) and Walter (4). Also what looks like Frances (but possibly Francis or James), described as son, 16, labourer. All born Greenwich. This could have been either Catherine's son, down as Minter, or Henry's son from his first marriage. But there is no trace of him in 1851 or 1871 and no trace of the birth of a Francis or James Minter about 1844. Catherine definitely wasn't living at 14 East Street in 1851. 1871 census: at 1 Wybourns Place, Greenwich, Catherine (widow, 56, laundress), Alice (19, born Charlton), Walter (14) and Ada WINSLOW (grandchild, 5, born Greenwich).
  Person ID	I3	Lambeth, London
  Last Modified	22 Sep 2020

  
  

  Father	William Pettet Minter,   b. 1777, Lambeth, Surrey d. Bef 30 Jul 1834, Lambeth, London (Age 57 years)
  Mother	Hannah,   b. 1786   d. Yes, date unknown
  Marriage	Abt 1815	Surrey   [5]
  Family ID	F2	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family 1	Phoebe Maria COOPER,   b. Abt 1820, Chedburgh, Suffolk d. 19 Jul 1851, 16 Raingate Street, Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk (Age ~ 31 years)
  Marriage	24 Dec 1837	St Mary, Lambeth, London   [6, 7]
  	Married after banns. Henry Minter, full age, bachelor, fisherman of 21 Sanders Street, father William Minter, shoe maker (deceased). Phoebe Maria Cooper, full age, spinster of 21 Sanders Street, father John Cooper, coach painter. Both signed full names*. Witnesses Jhon (sic) Cooper, Mary Dykes both signed. * Henery Minter, Phebe Marier Cooper.
  Children	1. Phoebe Susan Minter,   b. 1 Jan 1839, 21 Saunders Street, Lambeth d. Bef 28 Jun 1840, Lambeth, London (Age 1 year)   2. Phoebe Henrietta Minter,   b. Bef 17 Jan 1841, Lambeth, London d. Bef 18 Aug 1844, Lambeth, London (Age ~ 3 years)   3. Henry Daniel Minter,   b. 29 May 1844, John Street, Lambeth, London d. Yes, date unknown   4. Rebecca Caroline Minter,   b. 28 May 1846, 13 John Street, Lambeth, London d. 26 Sep 1929, Waitati, Waikouati, New Zealand (Age 83 years)   5. William John Minter,   b. 9 Aug 1848, Greenwich, London d. 18 Jul 1940, Milton Regis, Kent (Age 91 years)   6. John Deane Minter,   b. 9 Oct 1850, Greenwich, London d. 1 Apr 1851, Greenwich, London (Age 0 years)
  Family ID	F3	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	22 Sep 2020

  
  

  Family 2	Catherine BAULF,   b. 15 Nov 1815, Greenwich, London d. Bef 7 Dec 1878, Greenwich, London (Age 63 years)
  Marriage	1 Dec 1851	St Nicholas Parish Church, Deptford, Kent   [8]
  	Henry, full age, widower, fisherman, resident this parish, father William, bootmaker; Catherine, full age, widow, resident this parish, father Peter Baulf, tailor. Married by banns. Both signed. Witnesses Robert Brown and Elizabeth Starkey both signed.
  Children	1. Alice Emma Minter,   b. Mar 1853, Charlton, London d. Dec 1882, Greenwich, London (Age ~ 29 years)   2. John Thomas Minter,   b. 7 Jun 1854, Greenwich, London d. Bef 12 Nov 1856, Greenwich, London (Age 2 years)   3. Harriet Ann Minter,   b. 1 Dec 1855, Greenwich, London d. 28 Dec 1855, Greenwich, London (Age 0 years)   4. Walter Alfred Minter,   b. 15 Feb 1857, Greenwich, London d. Dec 1881, Greenwich, London (Age 24 years)   5. Francis Daniel Minter,   b. 3 Dec 1859, 14 East Street, Greenwich, London d. 31 Jul 1927, Seaman's Hospital, Greenwich, London (Age 67 years)
  Family ID	F22	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	19 Sep 2020

  
  

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• Sources

  [S62] www.familysearch.org, baptismal record. (Reliability: 3). [S5] BMD index, Q4 1859 Greenwich 1d/415, as just Henry. (Reliability: 3). Q4 1859 Greenwich 1d/415. Date from Christine Small's GR tree, March 2009. [S63] Death Certificate, copy provided by Simon Scowen. (Reliability: 3). [S29] www.deceasedonline.com, October 2009 and later. [S2] IGi. [S5] BMD index, Q2 1937 Lambeth 4/319, as just Henry. (Reliability: 3). Q4 1837 Lambeth 4/319. [S9] Marriage certificate (copy), supplied by Simon Scowen. (Reliability: 3). [S9] Marriage certificate (copy).