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James Thomas Dearman Minter

Male 1868 - Bef 1919  (50 years)


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  • Name James Thomas Dearman Minter 
    Born 8 Nov 1868  Bermondsey, London Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Christened 7 Feb 1869  Christ Church, Bermondsey, London Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Gender Male 
    Reference Number 844 
    _UID 69EF9812872E47FB981DD6CBD0895BBFC288 
    Died Bef 10 Apr 1919  Lewisham RD Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Buried 10 Apr 1919  Manor Park Cemetery (Newham) Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    Notes 
    • 1881 census: possibly lodging (apparently by himself), aged 13, a scholar, at 10 Llewelly Gr., Bermondsey.

      1891 census (indexed as MENTER by ancestry.com: aged 24, general labourer, boarding as a cousin with Elizabeth LILLY (36?, laundress, widow, born Horsleydown) and her daughter Sarah LILLY (37?, housekeeper, born Newark, Notts) at 14 Parish Street, Horsleydown.

      Ancestry.com has service records in connection with a pension claim. They show that John enlisted into the Scots Guards on 18 March 1892 and served until 1903 including time in South Africa. He signed on again at age 45 on 14 September 1914 and was eventually discharged on 21 April 1916 (more details of serve are below). He was in prison twice, the first time, in 1893, for being drunk and disorderly (31 days - see below) and again, in 1898, for disobeying orders (28 days).

      Irish Prison Registers 1790-1924 at findmypast.co.uk:
      James Thos. Minter, aged 25, a baker & soldier, born Bermondsey was in Kilmainham Gaol, having been found guilty of being drunk and disorderly. He was sentenced to 1 month on 19 Jun 1893 and released on 18 July 1893.
      This spell of imprisonment was the result of a trial following John's arrest outside the 1893 Ballsbridge Tournament. The trial, reported in the Freemans Journal of 20 June 1893, noted that "Minter was assaulting several civilians and police with his belt". He admitted he was drunk but said he received a "truncheon" on the head which rendered him senseless. He was fined 40 shillings or a month's hard labour.

      1901 census: John not found. Mary (head, married, 32, no occupation, born Finsbury) lived by herself at 5 Penny Bank Chambers, Shoreditch, London.

      James and Mary had a daughter Violet on 25 October 1905: when she was baptised her parents' names were given as Thomas James, labourer, and Mary Minter of 5 Turners Square, Shoreditch.

      1911 census: at 37 Turner Square, Hoxton, London (1 room), James Thomas (head, 45, waterside labourer, whafe finger (sic), worker, born Bermondsey, London SE) and Mary (wife, 43, married 12 years, 2 children both died, born Finsbury, London).
      Form signed James Thomas Minter.

      Ancestry.com have two sets of service records for James.
      1. He joined the Scots Guards at London on 16 March 1892 at the age of 23 years 4 months, a carman. He was discharged on 15 March 1904 having completed 12 years service, including duty in South Africa from October 1899 to July 1902. Next-of-kin father Edward Minter, General Steam Navigation Yard, Deptford, Kent (but James's marriage to Mary Kenny is also recorded).
      2. He joined the Scots Guards at Shoreditch on 14 September 1914 at the age of 45, born Bermondsey, and served for 1 year and 221 days before being discharged as 'no longer physically fit for war service' on 21 April 1916. When he left he gave his intended address as 104 Wilmer Gardens, Kingsland Road, London NE. He gained some medals including the Queen's SA Medal and Clasps. A pension of 27s 6d was awarded for 51 weeks. Before signing on James was a stevedore. His next-of-kin was his wife Mary (Kenny), whom he married on 2 April 1899, of 37 Turner Square, Hoxton, London.
    Person ID I844  Folkestone, Kent
    Last Modified 2 Dec 2017 

    Father Edward Minter,   b. Bef 5 Jul 1820, Folkestone, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Dec 1893, St Olave Bermondsey RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 73 years) 
    Mother Matilda Ann DEARMAN,   b. Abt 1831, Cheshunt, Hertfordshire Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Dec 1868, Bermondsey RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 37 years) 
    Married 23 Dec 1850  Parish Church of St Martin in the Fields, Middlesex Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    • By banns. Edward Minter, full age, bachelor, mariner of St Martins Ct, father Edward Minter, mariner. Matilda Ann Dearman, full age, spinster of St Martins Ct, father William Dearman, victualler. Both signed. Witnesses Timothy Giblett (signed) and M Giblett (mark).
    Family ID F266  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Mary KENNY,   b. Abt 1868, Finsbury, London Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Mar 1921, Shoreditch RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 53 years) 
    Married 2 Apr 1899  St Mary's Church, Whitechapel, London Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
    Children 
     1. Violet Minter,   b. 25 Oct 1905, Shoreditch, London Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 22 Aug 1906, Shoreditch, London Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 0 years)
    Last Modified 8 Sep 2009 
    Family ID F208  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

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  • Sources 
    1. [S36] BMD index (Reliability: 3).
      Q4 1868 Bermondsey 1d/71.

    2. [S88] London Metropolitan Archives at Ancestry.co.uk, September 2009 and later.

    3. [S36] BMD index (Reliability: 3).
      aged 50, Q2 1919 Lewisham 1d/934.

    4. [S138] www.deceasedonline.com, January 2011 and later.

    5. [S33] Marriage certificate (copy) (Reliability: 3).
      Q4 1850 St Martin 1/161.

    6. [S36] BMD index (Reliability: 3).
      Q2 1899 Whitechapel 1c/497. Date and place from service record at ancestry.com.