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John Minter

Male Bef 1810 - Yes, date unknown


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  • Name John Minter 
    Born Bef 1 Jul 1810  Thorpe-le-Soken, Essex Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Christened 1 Jul 1810  Thorpe-le-Soken, Essex Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Gender Male 
    _UID 67CE3AF4DDD04414A84AED8CC5133F553F6A 
    Died Yes, date unknown 
    Notes 
    • There is no sign in the Thorpe-le-Soken Parish Registers of the marriage of John and Mary. The births of their children, apart from Elizabeth, do not appear to have been registered.

      1841 census: in Thorp Green, Thorpe-le-Soken, John (30, ag lab), Mary (30), Mary (10), William (4) and Emma (10 months).

      1851 census: in Thorpe-le-Soken, John (40, ag lab), Mary (41), William (13), Emma (10), Eliza (4) and Elizabeth (2). Son John (7) was with his grandparents.

      1861 census: not found, apart from William and Eliza (qv).

      In July 2016 Darren Bedingfield discovered (at SEAX) the documents reproduced as transcriptions below. They explain why John 'disappeared' after his appearance in the 1851 census, but not what became of him.
      «b»
      Settlement Examination concerning John Minter, junior«/b»
      John Minter, senior., Mary Ann Minter, William Thompson senior, of Thorpe-le-Soken, farmer, William Mustard. overseer of Tendring, Essex, William Thompson, junior, overseer of Thorpe-le-Soken and Thomas Tye of Thorpe-le-Soken, labourer all re: John Minter, junior. John Minter, senior, father of John Minter, junior: Examinant at present residing in Thorpe-le-Soken, from which parish his wife Mary Ann and 3 of her children are now chargeable. Examinant states that he is 78 years old. 48 years ago he married Alice Smith, spinster, at Thorpe-le-Soken Church and John Minter, junior, is a son of that marriage, and is 46 years old. At the age of 23 John Minter, junior married his present wife, Mary Ann, whose maiden name was Scowen. Examinant states his son has done nothing to obtain a settlement in his own right, and has absconded and cannot be found. When examinant was a young, single, man about 50 or 60 years ago he was hired by Captain Turner who resided on a farm in Tendring, Essex, at the wages of £7 a year. He agreed to begin his service 2 or 3 days after Michaelmas and continued until Michaelmas of the following year. Received his full wages and slept in Tendring more than 40 nights during his service. Before his son's marriage did nothing else to acquire another settlement and was relieved in 1830 and subsequently by the parish of Tendring while resident in Thorpe-le-Soken. Signed with Minter's mark.
      Mary Ann Minter neé Scowen: States that she married John Minter, junior, at Kirby-le-Soken Church about 23 years ago and has 6 children: Mary (23), William (15), Emma (13), Eliza (8), Elizabeth (4) and John (8). Knew her husband some time before their marriage but never knew him to do anything to acquire a settlement in his own right. Has received relief from Tendring while resident in Thorpe-le-Soken. States that her husband absconded more than three months ago and does not know where he is. First relieved by Tendring while resident in Thorpe-le-Soken about a month after marriage. Now in receipt of relief in the Union House with 3 of her children. Signed with Mary Ann Minter's mark.
      William Thompson of Thorpe-le-Soken, farmer: Produced certificate of Marriage of John Minter, senior and Alice Smith and certificate of baptism of their son John Minter, which he obtained from the vicar of Thorpe-le-Soke, and a certificate of marriage from the parish of Kirby-le-Soken, Essex. A warrant has been placed against John Minter, junior., for deserting his wife and children, but cannot be found.
      William Mustard, overseer of Tendring:
      Stated that he is one of the overseers of Tendring. Produced an account book containing entries of relief given to John Minter, senior and John Minter, junior in 1830 and 1831 (quotes entries)
      William Thompson, junior:
      Produced certificate from Tendring Union Board of Guardians as to chargeability of Mary Ann Minter and children Emma, Eliza and Elizabeth.
      Thomas Tye: labourer:
      Sates that he spoke to John Minter a week before he absconded, while they were both hoeing wheat and beans and learnt of the uncomfortable relationship he had with his wife and his determination to leave her if things did not improve and enlist on a Man of War.
      «b»Date of creation: 5 September 1853«/b»


      «b»
      Removal Order of Mary Ann Minter, wife of John Minter, junior and family to Tendring, Essex«/b»
      And children Emma (13), Eliza (7) and Elizabeth (4).
      [Five items: two copies of removal order; petition for examination of evidence, 5 Sept. 1853; notice to overseers of Tendring of removal, giving grounds (to wit that Mary Ann Minter and her family have been deserted by John Minter, junior, who has no settlement other than that of his father, John Minter, senior, who some 50-60 years ago, as a young, unmarried man acquired a settlement in Tendring as a yearly servant to Captain Turner, occupier of a farm then lately in the occupation of Mrs. Fox), 5 Sept.1853, and certificate from Tendring Guardians, 31 Aug, 1853, that the family became chargeable to Thorpe-le-Soken by receiving relief in the Union Workhouse].
      «b»Date of creation: 5 September 1853«/b»
      «b»
      «/b»Darren found the following article from the Essex Standard of 15 July 1853 (it can be seen at findmypast.co.uk):

      "ABSCONDED,
      From the Parish of THORPE-LE-SOKEN,
      JOHN MINTER, Labourer about 40 years of age; stands 5 feet 7 inches; dark complexion; curly hair; leaving his wife and lamilv chargeable to this parish.
      The customary Reward will be given for his apprehension on application to the Overseer."
    Person ID I8  Thorpe le Soken, Essex
    Last Modified 20 Jul 2016 

    Father John Minter,   b. Abt 1775, Thorpe-le-Soken, Essex Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 15 May 1856, Thorpe-le-Soken, Essex Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 81 years) 
    Mother Alice SMITH,   b. Abt 1780,   d. Bef 27 Nov 1837, Thorpe-le-Soken, Essex Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 57 years) 
    Married 10 Nov 1805  Thorpe-le-Soken, Essex Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    • John Minter of this parish, bachelor, Alice Smith of this parish, spinster, by banns. Both gave their mark. Witnesses Joseph Smith and James Benneworth (who acted as witness to several marriages about this time).
    Family ID F4  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Mary Ann SCOWEN,   b. Bef 1 Jan 1809, Thorpe le Soken, Essex Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 12 Jul 1859, Tendring Union Workhouse, Essex Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 50 years) 
    Married 12 Oct 1830  St Michael, Kirby-le-Soken, Essex Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    • John MInter of the Parish of Thorp, bachelor and Mary Scowen of this Parish, spinster, by license. Both marked. Witnesses ---- Stone, Thos. Burdock.
    Children 
     1. Mary Ann Minter,   b. Bef 26 Jun 1831, Kirby-le-Soken, Essex Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 26 Mar 1856, Tendring Union Workhouse, Essex Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 24 years)
     2. William Minter,   b. Bef 6 Aug 1837, Thorpe-le-Soken, Essex Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Sep 1920, Ipswich RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 83 years)
     3. Emma Minter,   b. Abt 1840, Thorpe-le-Soken, Essex Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Mar 1882, Taunton RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 42 years)
     4. John Minter,   b. Dec 1843, Thorpe-le-Soken, Essex Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Mar 1926, Hammersmith RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 82 years)
     5. Eliza Minter,   b. Abt 1847, Thorpe-le-Soken, Essex Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     6. Elizabeth Minter,   b. Mar 1849, Thorpe-le-Soken, Essex Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 9 Jul 1860, Tendring Union Workhouse, Essex Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 11 years)
    Last Modified 19 Jul 2016 
    Family ID F9  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

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    Link to Google MapsBorn - Bef 1 Jul 1810 - Thorpe-le-Soken, Essex Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChristened - 1 Jul 1810 - Thorpe-le-Soken, Essex Link to Google Earth
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  • Sources 
    1. [S2] Thorpe-le-Soken Parish Registers at SEAX Jul 2006 and later.

    2. [S68] Kirby-le-Soken marriage register at SEAX, July 2016.