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John Robinson Minter

Male 1855 - 1877  (~ 21 years)


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  • Name John Robinson Minter 
    Born Sep 1855  Hackney, Essex Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Christened 28 Sep 1855  Folkestone, SS Mary & Eanswyth, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Reference Number 368 
    _UID 6C400D081F0944A88A7395C6BDEDEE7035DD 
    Died 11 Sep 1877  At sea Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Notes 
    • 1871 census: aged 15, John was a grocer and cheesemonger's assistant at 'Broadway House', 10 Broadway, West Ham.
      No trace after that.

      It's «u»possible«/u» that no trace of John Robinson Minter has been found after 1871 because he was the 'John R Minter' who was on the 'Avalanche' which sank on 11 September 1877 off Portland, Dorset after colliding with the 'Forest'. The Avalanche had not long left London en route for Wellington, New Zealand. Also among the 63 passengers was a 'John Minter' whose identity is unknown. Both Minters drowned along with more than 100 other people.
      A very detailed account of the disaster appeared in the NZ Bay of Plenty Times on 10 November 1877 and can be read at http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=BOPT18771110.2.13&srpos=531&e=-------100--451----0minter-all

      It remains to be seen whether the above can be proved. It's worth noting that in some accounts of the disaster the name John R Winter (rather than Minter) appears.

      The above is now proved: England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941 (at Ancestry.co.uk, Nov 2010) has:
      8 February 1878 Personal Estate under £450. Administration of the Personal Estate of John Robinson Minter late of 194 Ol-Kent-road in the County of Surrey Shopman a Bachelor who died 11 September 1877 at Sea was granted at the Principal Registry to David Minter of 28 Colls-road Peckham in the said County Gentleman the Father and Next of Kin.
    Person ID I368  Folkestone, Kent
    Last Modified 10 Oct 2012 

    Father David Minter,   b. 16 Jul 1822, Vlissingen (Flushing), Holland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 27 Jul 1878, Forest Gate, Essex Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 56 years) 
    Mother Margaret Golder ROBINSON,   b. Abt 1825,   d. 5 Oct 1856, Folkestone, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 31 years) 
    Married 31 May 1851  St James, Bermondsey, London Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 3
    • Married by license. David Minter, full age, bachelor, clerk in HM Customs of Blueanchor(?) Road, father John Minter, gentleman. Margaret Golder Robinson, full age, spinster of Folkestone, Kent, father John Robinson, gentleman. Both signed full names. Witnesses Bartholomew Minter, Margaret Bateman.
    Family ID F87  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

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    Link to Google MapsBorn - Sep 1855 - Hackney, Essex Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChristened - 28 Sep 1855 - Folkestone, SS Mary & Eanswyth, Kent Link to Google Earth
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  • Sources 
    1. [S36] BMD index (Reliability: 3).
      Q3 1855 Romford 4a/81.

    2. [S36] BMD index, Q2 1851 Bermondsey 4/15. (Reliability: 3).

    3. [S88] London Metropolitan Archives at Ancestry.co.uk, September 2009 and later.