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Charles Minter

Male 1847 - Yes, date unknown


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  • Name Charles Minter 
    Born 1847  Canterbury, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Christened 5 Sep 1847  Wesleyan Chapel, Canterbury Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    _UID 66CE186EF1CD48C18E9D47B803DD91ABC779 
    Died Yes, date unknown 
    Notes 
    • There is a small amount of doubt whether the 1868 marriage of Charles Minter and Martha Pearce relates to this Charles Minter. In 1861 Charles was 13 and living with his father William (and his mother and brothers and sisters) in Camberwell Lane, Lambeth. William was described as a cowkeeper (in 1871 the description was farmer, in 1881 dairyman and in 1891 retired dairyman). When Charles married he was living in Lambeth and married in the parish church of St Mary Lambeth, and would have been 18, ie (just) of full age. He gave his father's name as William, occupation dairy man.

      In 1871 Martha was living in Lilford Street, Lambeth, aged 25, married, with her daughter Elizabeth aged 2. Although Martha was shown as married, Charles wasn't there and despite extensive searches cannot be found anywhere. Martha's daughter Elizabeth was born on 7 September 1868 in the Lambeth Workhouse, Princes Street. This plus the fact that Charles cannot be found in 1871 suggests that the marriage may have been one of convenience, with Charles 'disappearing' very quickly.

      Post Office Directory, Surrey 1878 has Charles Minter, dairyman, Thicket Grove, Anerly Road, Upper Norwood, London SE.

      By 1881 Martha, as Martha Spark, aged 36, was living with Frederick Spark and Elizabeth Minter (12) and Oliver and Lilian Spark. There is no trace of Martha and Frederick marrying (Roz Grevett, a great-granddaughter, says they never married). Also in 1881 there was a Charles Minter, aged 34, a dairyman, born Canterbury living in Thicket Grove, Penge with his wife Ellen A., 32, born Wales Bristol (Bristol isn't in Wales!). It's not clear whether Charles was free to marry Ellen in 1879. (It may be significant that when Charles married Ellen Vale in 1879 he was described in the register as 'bachelor'.) There is no trace of either of them in 1891 or 1901, but their daughter Clara has been found in 1891 and 1901 - see her Notes.

      Roz Grevett adds that Frederick and Martha separated and Frederick is believed then to have married Lucretia.

      One of the sons of Oliver Spark, John, was a well known thief in England and was known as Ruby Sparks. He had written a book on his life "Burglar To The Nobility" by Ruby Sparks as told to Norman Price.
    Person ID I332  Canterbury, Kent
    Last Modified 17 Aug 2018 

    Father William Honeywood Minter,   b. Bef 30 Sep 1821, Butchery Lane, Canterbury, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 11 Mar 1899, Bowes Park, London Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 77 years) 
    Mother Mary BARTLETT,   b. Abt 1829, Upper Hardres, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 11 Jan 1897, Bowes Park, London Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 68 years) 
    Married 6 Aug 1845  St Andrews, Canterbury Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Family ID F22  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Martha PEARCE,   b. Abt 1846,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Married 6 Jul 1868  Parish Church, St Mary, Lambeth Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    • By banns. Charles, bachelor, dairy man of Cold Harbour Lane, father William Minter, dairy man. Martha spinster of Cold Harbour Lane, father Joseph Pearce, lace maker. Both of full age, both signed. Winesses look like Ed. Powell and Ann Wicks.
    Children 
     1. Elizabeth Minter,   b. 7 Sep 1868, Camberwell, London Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Mar 1955, Gosport RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 86 years)
    Last Modified 8 Sep 2009 
    Family ID F265  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Ellen A VALE,   b. Abt 1849, Bristol Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Married 12 Oct 1879  Emmanuel Church, Camberwell, London Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    • Married after banns. Charles Minter, 30, bachelor, baker of Emmanuel, father William Minter, carman. Ellen Vale, 23, spinster of Emmanuel, father Richard Vale, piano maker. Both signed full names. Witnesses Alfred Gurr and Mary Ann ----son.
    Children 
     1. Clara Minter,   b. Sep 1880, Greenwich RD Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
    Last Modified 17 Jul 2014 
    Family ID F128  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

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  • Sources 
    1. [S14] BMD index (Reliability: 3).
      Possible birth Q3 1847 Canterbury 5/61.

    2. [S14] BMD index (Reliability: 3).
      Q3 1845 Canterbury 5/85

    3. [S3] Marriage certificate (copy) (Reliability: 3).
      Q3 1868 Lambeth 1d/494.

    4. [S58] London Metropolitan Archives at Ancestry.co.uk, September 2009 and later, Q4 1879 Camberwell 1d/1088. (Reliability: 3).