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William John Minter

Male Bef 1845 - Bef 1924  (~ 78 years)


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  • Name William John Minter 
    Born Bef 12 Oct 1845  Westminster, London Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Christened 12 Oct 1845  St Mary, Lambeth Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    _UID 4F52116645E54CAAAFB125BAA329F85F9A04 
    Died Bef 5 Feb 1924  St Olave Bermondsey RD Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Buried 5 Feb 1924  Nunhead Cemetery (Southwark) Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Notes 
    • Baptised as John William son of William John & Mary Martha Minter, John Street, greengrocer.

      January 2010. There is a case to be made for treating William John Minter as the same person as the John William Minter who appears in the 'Lambeth Minters' as the son of William John Minter and Mary Martha Gardener. The London baptism found in the London Metropolitan Archive at Ancestry.co.uk which has been assumed to relate to John William Minter took place on 12 October 1845 at St Mary Lambeth. The date fits equally well with William John Minter's birth, which successive censuses suggested was 1845 or 1846.
      However, William John Minter consistently gave his birthplace as Westminster, which is on the north side of the Thames, whereas Lambeth is on the south side. Therefore, the two individuals will remain distinct until further evidence that they are the same arises.
      December 2011. Since the above was written the following 1851 census entry has been found:
      at 1 Robert Street, Lambeth, Mary MINTER (lodger, widow, 28, charwoman, born St Giles in the Fields), John William [no surname or relationship stated but is on the next line to Mary], 5, born Westminster, George GARDNER (brother, single, 19, bricklayer, born St Giles) and Jane GARDNER (sister, single, 16, servant, born Lambeth).
      Living at the same address but as a separate household were:
      Thomas GARDNER (56, bricklayer, born St Mary Le Strand) Jane GARDNER (wife, 49, born Shoreditch), Edward GARDNER (son, 13, born Lambeth), Elizabeth GARDNER (daughter, 10, born Lambeth) and Emma GARDNER (daughter, 14, born Lambeth).
      The following 1861 census entry has also been found:
      at 5 Mary Place, Chapel Street, Woolwich, London, George CAWTE (37, labourer), Mary CAWTE (38, born St Pancras, Middlesex), John MINTER (15, born Westminster), George CAWTE (8, born Charlton, Kent), Robert CAWTE (5, born Woolwich, Kent), Thomas CAWTE (2, born Woolwich, Kent) and Ester (sic) CAWTE (8 months, born Woolwich, Kent).
      It has also been realised that one of the witnesses at William John's 1863 marriage was a Mary GARDNER (although the identity of this Mary Gardner hasn't been established).
      In view of the above, the Westminster group has been merged into the Lambeth group.

      1871 census: William not found; his wife Emily (27, dressmaker) and daughter Rose (2) were living with Emily's parents at 5 Preston Street, Kentish Town, London.

      1881 census (indexed as MISOLES by ancestry.com): at 15 Lower Chester Street, Greenwich, London, William J (35, general labourer), Emily (37), Rose (12) and Lilly (7).

      When son Alfred was baptised in 1882, William & Emily were at 9 Cromwell Terrace, Pelton Road, William a labourer.

      1891 census: at 2 Fenton Street, Greenwich, William J (45, general labourer), Emily (46), Lilly (17, general servant), Alfred (8, scholar) and Henry (5, scholar). Rose not found.

      1901 census: at 2 Fenton Street, Greenwich, Wm J (55, labourer, soap works), Emily (57), Lily (27, laundress) and Alfred (18, labourer). Daughter Rose (32) was a patient in the Greenwich Union Infirmary.

      1911 census: at 73d, Collerston Road, East Greenwich, London SE (2 rooms), William John (head, 65, married, soap boiler, soap works, worker, born Westminster, London), Lilly (wife *, 38, married 5 years, 1 child, living, born Kentish Town, London) and William Charles (son, 3, born Deptford, London)
      Form signed William John Minter.
      * there is no sign of a marriage registration around 1906 and (as at January 2010) no marriage in the London Matropolitan Archive at Ancestry.co.uk. So William and Lilly may not have married.
    Person ID I227  Lambeth, London
    Last Modified 4 Mar 2016 

    Father William John Minter,   b. Between 1821 and 1823, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 10 Jan 1847, St Olave Southwark RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 26 years) 
    Mother Mary Martha GARDENER,   b. Bef 16 Nov 1823, London Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Mar 1885, Greenwich RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 61 years) 
    Married 1 Aug 1842  St Johns, Waterloo, Lambeth, London Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    • Married after banns. William John Minter, full age, bachelor, greengrocer of Pleasant Place, father William Pettet Minter, cordwainer. Mary Martha Gardener, full age, spinster of Pleasant Place, father Thomas Gardener, bricklayer. Both marked. Witnesses Eliza Harriet Well----- and June Gas-man(?).
    Family ID F20  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Emily WILLIAMS,   b. Abt 1844, Marylebone, London Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 1 Aug 1906, Greenwich RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 62 years) 
    Married 2 Nov 1863  Old Church, St Pancras, London Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    • Married by banns. William John Minter, minor, bachelor, labourer of St Pancras, father deceased (name and occupation not given) and Emily Williams, minor, spinster of St Pancras, father William Williams, labourer. Both signed. Witnesses Mary Gardner and J Williams.
    Children 
     1. William Leonard Minter,   b. 19 May 1864, Pancras RD Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Mar 1865, Pancras RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 0 years)
     2. Rose Minter,   b. 11 Oct 1868, St Pancras, London Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Sep 1946, Greenwich RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 77 years)
     3. Lilly Minter,   b. Abt 1874, Kentish Town, London Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Mar 1942, Wandsworth RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 68 years)
     4. Harry Minter,   b. Bef 8 Sep 1880, Greenwich, London Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 31 Oct 1880, Greenwich, London Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 0 years)
     5. Alfred Edward Minter,   b. Bef 19 Jul 1882, Greenwich, London Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 21 Mar 1919, WW1 casualty Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 36 years)
     6. Emily Minter,   b. Bef 4 Jun 1884, Greenwich RD Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Sep 1950, Willesden RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 66 years)
     7. William Henry Minter,   b. Jun 1886, Greenwich, London Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 12 Apr 1967, Dartford RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 80 years)
    Last Modified 14 Dec 2011 19:51:00 
    Family ID F67  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Lilly UNKNOWN,   b. Abt 1873, Kentish Town, London Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Married Type: Common Law 
    Children 
     1. William Charles Minter,   b. Sep 1907, Deptford, London Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Sep 1976, SE Surrey RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 69 years)
    Last Modified 14 Dec 2011 19:51:00 
    Family ID F94  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

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  • Sources 
    1. [S5] BMD index (Reliability: 3).
      possible death, aged 78, Q1 1924 St Olave Bermondsey 1d/223.

    2. [S29] www.deceasedonline.com, October 2009 and later.

    3. [S18] London Metropolitan Archives at Ancestry.co.uk, October 2009, Q3 1842 Lambeth 4/232. (Reliability: 3).

    4. [S9] Marriage certificate (copy) (Reliability: 3).
      Q4 1863 Pancras 1b/226.