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Albert Minter

Male 1872 - Aft 1925  (52 years)


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  • Name Albert Minter 
    Born 27 Aug 1872  Boyton, Suffolk Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Gender Male 
    _UID C7A06E11295A4520B9D688999A6068F9D96D 
    Died Aft Feb 1925  Possibly at sea Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Notes 
    • The marriage between Albert and Annie TEBBUTT provides a link to the family tree of Steve Irwin on Genes Reunited. The inclusion of Annie and the couple's family is the result of correspondence with Steve in 2005. Steve suggested that Albert was a merchant seaman, which might explain why he cannot be found in the 1891 census. Albert's marriage certificate of 1896 however gives his occupation as 'conductor' but does give his age as 24 and his father's name as William, a joiner, both of which facts tie in with Albert E Minter born 1872 son of William and Catherine Minter. Less easy to see is how Albert came to be living in Hunslet, Yorkshire in 1896 and even more mystifying is why, if he was the son of William and Catherine, he would have said in 1901 that he was born in Sheffield, Yorkshire. For the time being however, it is assumed that the Albert who married Annie Tebbutt was the Albert born in 1872 in Boyton.

      National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914 Transcription (findmypast.co.uk):
      Albert, born 27 August 1872 of Boyton, father William, carpenter, was admitted to a school in California, Ipswich on 13 April 1885 and left on 28 July 1885

      1901 census: at 8 Pepper Place, Hunslet, Yorkshire, Albert (28, labourer, steel works, born Sheffield), Annie (23), Ernest (3) and William (4 months).

      Albert's occupation and address, as shown on his childrens' birth certificates:
      26 December 1897: tramcar conductor, 4 Ashton Terrace, Hunslet
      23 November 1900: general labourer, 8 Pepper Place, Hunslet
      28 April 1902: general labourer, 7 Whitfield Street, Hunslet
      20 August 1906: plasterer's labourer, 3 Henslow Road, Ipswich

      Albert and Annie may have been the parents of Maud Violet whose birth was registered at Leeds in Q4 1905. This might be confirmed by the 1911 census but as of February 2009, working only from the index, it would appear that, probably as a result of Annie's death in 1908, the family was not all together. An entry for Ethel (9) and Sydney (5) has been found at Woodbridge but it remains to be seen who they lived with.
      March 2009: Steve Irwin has now looked at the 1911 census and has found:
      1. Ethel Minter (9, born Leeds, Yorkshire) and Sydney Minter (5 born Ipswich, Suffolk) were staying with their uncle, Alfred GOODERHAM (head, 56, farm labourer, born Braiseworth, Suffolk) and aunt (Jane GOODERHAM, 54, married 20 years, no children, born Palgrave, Suffolk) at Rushmere St Andrew, Suffolk. The house had four rooms. Jane Gooderham signed the census form.
      Jane was the eldest child of William and Catherine Minter: the fact that she was shown as the aunt of Ethel and Sydney indicates that their father was Jane's brother and removes any doubt that Albert E Minter was the son of William and Catherine Minter.
      2. Ernest Minter (13, at school, born Leeds, Yorkshire) was living at 21 Hall Street, Hunslet, Leeds, Yorkshire with his TEBBUTT grandparents William (67, general labourer at steel works, born Benneffield, Northampton) and Elizabeth (65, married 42 years, 8 children, 7 surviving), born Glapthorne, Northampton. Their sons James Henry (39) and Albert (31) also lived there, in a 3 roomed house. Ernest is shown as 'nephew', after the form had been amended.

      July 2009: email from Pip Kedge:
      "I attach a copy of a marriage certificate for Albert Minter and Marian Kipling whom Albert married in 1919 - this would be his second marriage. Within 10 years she had re-married a Thomas Williamson marrying Dec 1930 in Middlesborough and she had 4 children by him - Thomas W 1931 Margaret 1932 Moira L 1934 Kenneth 1936 all Yorkshire. There was a child Katherine Minter 1920 bn to Albert and Marian in Woodbridge Dist but probably Walton. It is believed that Katherine married Alfred R Bramham Dec 1939 North Allerton. The reason I looked for him is that he seemed to have gone into the mist for some time after Annie Tebbutts death - but now there is the problem as to why his wife Marian re-married ten years later - where was Albert - had he died at sea - divorced??? - or just went their separate ways - any ideas?"
      This is an interesting discovery and I have no idea how Marian came to be free to marry again in 1930.
      July 2011: At the time of daughter Ethel's marriage, Albert was said to be deceased, previously a ship cook. So perhaps Albert died at sea which would explain why I can't find a death registration for him.
      It seems likely that Marian's relationship with Thomas Williamson started around 1925/6. There were 6 children registered in either Middlesbrough or Gateshead between 1926 and 1936, all with surname Williamson, mother's maiden name Kipling. Although none of the birth certificates have been see, all 6 are assumed to be Marian and Thomas's children.
      September 2011: Pip Kedge reports that Sue Claydon has discovered that in 1925 (the official document (at FindMyPast) is stamped 27 February) Albert requested a copy of his navy service and discharge record, having lost the original. So he must have been alive at the time. It would appear that Albert was on the 'Villavia'
      September 2011: Pip has now found that the ship was the 'Vellavia'. The website http://7seasvessels.com/?p=25263 includes a picture and gives the following history of the ship. Albert could have died anywhere on the routes taken.
      Completed 6/1918, 52729, by Armstrong Whitworth, Newcastle (933) as WAR SETTER for the Shipping Controller (Cairns, Noble), GBR
      1919 VELLAVIA, Cunard Steam-Ship Company, GBR
      1926 RIVER TIGRIS, American-Levant Line, London, GBR
      1931 INES CORRADO, 'Corrado' S.A. di Nav., Genova, ITA
      To Argentine state from 25/8/1941
      1942 RIO DIAMANTE, Flota Mercante del Estado, Argentina, ARG
      1946 reverted to Italian owners as INES CORRADO, ITA
      Broken up at Tokyo, arrived 16/4/1959.
    Person ID I204  Boyton, Suffolk
    Last Modified 13 Dec 2017 

    Father William Minter,   b. 24 Dec 1840, Boyton, Suffolk Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Jun 1941, Leicester Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 100 years) 
    Mother Catherine HAROLD,   b. Dec 1840, Thrandeston, Suffolk Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 24 Nov 1909, Ipswich, Suffolk Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 68 years) 
    Married Dec 1863  Hartismere RD Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Family ID F22  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Annie TEBBUTT,   b. Dec 1877, Worksop, Nottinghamshire Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 17 Mar 1908, 6 Elm Street, Cargo Fleet, Ormesby, Yorkshire Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 30 years) 
    Married 25 Dec 1896  Parish Church, Hunslet, Yorkshire Find all individuals with events at this location  [3, 4
    • Albert, 24, bachelor, tram conductor of 4 Ashton terrace, father William, joiner. Annie, 20, spinster of 21 Hall Street, father William Tebbutt, labourer. Both signed. Witnesses John Pitts and Emma Tebbutt.
    Children 
     1. Ernest Minter,   b. 26 Dec 1897, 4 Ashton Terrace, Hunslet, Yorkshire Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Mar 1958, Leeds RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 60 years)
     2. William Minter,   b. 23 Nov 1900, 8 Pepper Place, Hunslet, Yorkshire Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1987, New Zealand Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 86 years)
     3. Ethel Minter
     4. Sidney Harold Minter,   b. 20 Aug 1906, 3 Henslow Road, Ipswich, Suffolk Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 9 Apr 1981, St James's Hospital, Leeds, Yorkshire Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 74 years)
    Last Modified 1 Aug 2011 
    Family ID F77  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Marian Emily KIPLING 
    Children 
     1. Katherine Minter,   b. 5 May 1920, Woodbridge RD Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aug 1991, North Allerton RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 71 years)
    Last Modified 30 Jul 2011 
    Family ID F113  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

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  • Sources 
    1. [S3] BMD index (Reliability: 3).
      Q3 1872 Woodbridge 4a/663.

    2. [S3] BMD index (Reliability: 3).
      Q4 1863 Hartismere 4a/1083.

    3. [S10] Marriage certificate (copy) (Reliability: 3).
      Q4 1896 Hunslet 9b/472.

    4. [S28] Parish register at Ancestry.co.uk, July 2011.