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John Arthur Minter

Male Bef 1833 - 1899  (~ 66 years)


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  • Name John Arthur Minter 
    Born Bef 27 Jan 1833  Kent Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Christened 27 Jan 1833  Wingham, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Gender Male 
    _UID 12053665AB2A480F984CF6A2D87D0206B74C 
    Died 8 May 1899  6 Water Street, Faversham, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 3, 4
    Buried 13 May 1899  Faversham, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Notes 
    • In 1849, awarded five shillings as ploughman's mate of Adisham in ploughing match at Noninton.

      1851 census: at Out Elmstead, Barham, a waggoner's second mate, unmarried, aged 18.

      A witness at Ash on the 19 February 1859.

      1861 census: aged 28, a carter at Loventon Lodge, Lydden, Kent.

      1871 census: at 2 Brunswick Street, Herne, Kent, John A (39, ale store keeper), Harriet E (29), John A (5), Eleanor E (4), Flora J (1) and Minnie (5 months).

      1881 census: at 39 Trinity Road, Beckenham, Kent, J Minter (46, carter), Harriet (36), John (15, draper's assistant), Ellen [Eleanor] (14, domestic servant), Flora J (11, scholar), Minnie (8, scholar), Annie (5) and Edward (4 months). It looks as if Eleanor was counted twice: an Eleanor E Minter, 14, born Faversham appears as a general servant (domestic) at 5 Eden Villas, Compton (?) Road, Penge.

      1891 census: at 6 Westgate Road, Faversham, Kent, John (58, brewer's labourer), Harriett (48), Edward (10, scholar), Alfred (7, scholar) and Rose (5, scholar).

      1901 census: John died in 1899; his widow Harriet (56) was at 6 Water Lane, Faversham with sons Edward (20, brewer's labourer) and Alfred (16, general brickfield labourer).

      1911 census: see widow's Notes.

      For some reason John's death was registered as John Hawkins Minter, and he was buried as John Hawkins Minter of Water Lane. Hawkins was the second name of son Alfred.

      April 2016: email from Madeleine Read, giving death as at 6 Water Street, Favesham on 8 May 1899. Madeleine has the death certificate. She adds:
      "I have marriage & death certificates for him. I have been holding back getting his birth certificate as the middle name seems to change. On his marriage certificate states John Arthur, on his death states John Hawkins, on his son Alfred Hawkins & on his wife's death certificate states father & husband John Hawkins Minter!!!!!
      Did he change his middle name & why???? Strange isn't it? Must be some connection but I have not been able at this stage to solve it.
      Harriett Elizabeth his wife died 23 July 1933 at 17 Clarence Cres Sidcup Kent."

      July 2016: Madeleine has sent me copies of:
      - John Arthur Minter's 1864 marriage certificate. It shows his name as John Arthur Minter, age 31.
      - son Alfred Hawkins Minter's 1884 birth certificate. It gives the father's name as John Hawkins Minter.
      - John Arthur/Hawkins Minter's 1899 death certificate. It gives the deceased's name as John Hawkins Minter.
      It's not known why 'Arthur' was dropped in favour of 'Hawkins' but the change must have happened between 1864 and 1884
    Person ID I1516  Ickham, Kent
    Last Modified 27 Mar 2018 

    Father Thomas Minter,   b. Bef 12 Feb 1797, Wingham, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 2 Oct 1883, Preston, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 86 years) 
    Mother Elizabeth Esther REVELL,   b. Bef 27 Feb 1803, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 18 Dec 1843, Wingham, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 40 years) 
    Married 4 Nov 1826  Ickham, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    • Married by banns as of Ickham; Elizabeth of Ickham.
    Family ID F270  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Harriet Elizabeth FITTALL,   b. Abt 1842, Dover, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 23 Jul 1933, 17 Clarence Crescent, Sidcup, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 91 years) 
    Married 23 Jul 1864  Waldershare, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    • Married by banns. John Arthur Minter, 31 bachelor labourer of Lydden, father Thomas Minter, labourer; Harriet Elizabeth Fittall, 22 spinster of Waldershre, father Richard Fittall labourer. Both marked. Witnesses William Fittall (mark) and Ellen Maria Fittall (sign).
    Children 
     1. John Arthur Minter,   b. 24 Sep 1865, Water Lane, Faversham Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 20 Oct 1881, 23 Wordsworth Road, Penge, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 16 years)
     2. Eleanor Elizabeth Minter,   b. Mar 1867, Faversham, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     3. Flora Jane Minter,   b. 2 Sep 1869, Herne Bay, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Mar 1943, Wandsworth RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 73 years)
     4. Minnie Minter,   b. 28 Nov 1870, Herne Bay, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Jun 1947, Bromley RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 76 years)
     5. Annie Maria Minter,   b. 25 May 1874, Penge, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Dec 1950, Penzance, Cornwall Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 76 years)
     6. Walter Harry Minter,   b. Sep 1876, Croydon RD Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Mar 1878, Croydon RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 1 years)
     7. Frederick Mark Minter,   b. Sep 1878, Bromley RD Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Mar 1880, Bromley RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 1 years)
     8. Edward Minter,   b. Mar 1881, Beckenham, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Dec 1915, Faversham RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 34 years)
     9. Alfred Hawkins Minter,   b. 20 Jun 1884, Penge, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Mar 1942, Sittingbourne, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 57 years)
     10. Rose Maud Minter,   b. 13 Nov 1885, Penge, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 27 Feb 1963, Sidcup, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 77 years)
    Last Modified 8 Jul 2016 
    Family ID F167  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsChristened - 27 Jan 1833 - Wingham, Kent Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 23 Jul 1864 - Waldershare, Kent Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBuried - 13 May 1899 - Faversham, Kent Link to Google Earth
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  • Sources 
    1. [S5] Cliff Minter.

    2. [S3] BMD index (Reliability: 3).
      Aged 66, Q2 1899 Faversham 2a/542. Date from Cliff Minter.

    3. [S239] Madeleine Read, April 2016.

    4. [S167] Death certificate (copy), copy supplied by Madeleine Read, July 2016 (Reliability: 3).

    5. [S29] Marriage certificate (copy) (Reliability: 3).
      Q3 1864 Eastry 2a/1141.