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10751 There are many references to Philip Gidley King on the World Wide Web including a short biography at KING, Philip Gidley (I1063)
10752 There are several records for Edward in the UK, Railway Employment Records, 1833-1963 collection at for the Southern Division of the London and North Western Railway. They indicate that Edward was appointed on 21 June 1853 as a statistical apprentice - he seems to have started on £25 pa..
Further records in the same collection:
Staff in the Audit Department at Euston includes E Minter, apprentice, appointed 21 June 1853, salary £30 pa, rising to £40 pa until on 1 May 1856 he was nominated for transfer to Manager's Dept.
Staff in the Audit Department at Euston includes E Minter, apprentice, appointed 21 June 1853, salary £60 pa in 1858, rising to £80 pa in 1861.
Staff in the Secretary's Office at Euston includes E Minter Jr., appointed 21 June 1853, salary £90 pa from 1.4.1862, £100 pa from 1.1.1863, £110 pa from 1.1.1869, £120 pa from 1.1.1870. He was dismissed on 30 April 1873 with 3 months salary instead of notice.

1871 census: at 36 Charrington Street, St Pancras, London, Edward (32, railway clerk) and Harriet (25). 
Minter, Edward (I100)
10753 There are several unresolved qustions abour Harriett and Ephraim Stow(e).

1. The birth certificate for their daughter Elizabeth Eliza (born 11.1.1848) shows mother's name as Harriett Stowe, formerly Brooker. We know that in 1841, Harriett was living with Robert and Elizabeth (Brooker). They married in 1832, a date after Harriett's birth date of about 1830, so it's possible that Harriett kept her mother's surname rather than adopting that of her mother's husband (who was probably (but not definitely - we don't have a birth certificate) Harriett's father.

2. No record has been found of Harriett actually marrying Ephraim Stow, either as Harriett Minter or Harriett Brooker. Ther's no doubt they were a couple however - the 1861 census shows they had 5 children in addition to Elizabeth Eliza.

3. It's a mystery why Harriett's daughter was living with her grandparents Robert & Elizabeth in 1861. It's also a mystery where she was in 1851 - not with either her parents or her grandparents. 
Family F186
10754 There are two BMD index death entries with the same date and reference but different birth dates: 31 Dec 1896 and 24 Oct 1897. The 1939 Register gave a birth date of 31 Dec 1897! BANNISTER, Olive Maud (I169)
10755 There are two entries in the North Carolina Birth Index for 1923. The first is for "Webb Minter", father Paul Minter of Ruffin. On the next but one line is an entry for just "Minter", father Paul Minter of Ruffin. These entries probably relate to this William Minter.

See Notes for Paul: William appears to have become known as 'Webb Minter'. 
Minter, Webb (I544)
10756 There are two entries in the NSW Marriage Index which may refer to Sylvia:
910/1939 Doreen Sylvia Minter + Arthur Hunter at Chatswood RD
940/1939 Doreen Sylvia Minter + Arthur Hunter at Wallsend RD 
Minter, Doreen Sylvia (I3970)
10757 There are two Harry Norman Killick birth registrations in the index, both in Q3 1851 at Sevenoaks, one with ref 5/482, the other 5/486.

1881 census: Harry N KILLICK (29, retired farmer, born Edenbridge, Kent) was a visitor at "Highfields", West Street, East Grinstead, Sussex, home of George Searle HEAD, his wife & family.
Harry's wife and daughter Maud were counted in Chelsea with their father/grandfather. His son, Roper KILLICK was with his grandmother Ann ROPER (82) in Greenstreet, Lynsted, Kent.

1891 census: Harry not found. His wife and daughter were still in Chelsea with their father/grandfather. Son Roper, now 18, born Chelsea (sic) was at 2 Stafford Street, Mayfair, London with James SMITH, his wife and 2 daughters. Roper is recorded as an employee, a draper's assistant.

1901 census: Harry not found. His wife (as Flora E KILLICK, 55, born Blackfriars, London) was with her son Roper KILLICK (cf) and family at The Broadway, Newbury, Berkshire.
When daughter Maud married on 30 March 1901 she named her father as Harry Norman KILLICK, farmer, perhapssuggesting he was alive.

1911 census: Harry not found. His wife (as Elizabeth Flora KILLICK, 66, married 38 years, 2 children both living, born Blackfriars, London) was with Roper KILLICK (cf) and family at "Worle House", Beachfield Avenue, Newquay, Cornwall.

Harry Norman KILLICK is a mystery! His wife lived until she was 86 but I can't find his death or indeed anything about him after the 1881 census. See below...

May 2017: email correspondence with Raymond Killick, in which he writes:
"Harry Norman Killick, was my great grandfather. My late father Henry Cecil Killick b 20.12.1919 d.30.09.2013 aged 94. His father Cecil Eden (abbreviated from Edenbridge which has been passed down to my brother Robert Henry Eden Killick and to my son Duane Eden Killick) Cecil Eden Killick was a son of Harry Norman Killick.
Harry Norman Killick emigrated to New Zealand in June 1889. He married Caroline Bertha Browne b 1858 m 1886 NZ d 22.11.1902 I am not sure if his wife was Bertha Browne or Brown. My father once told me that a man came asking for his father (Cecil). My father asked who was that man? My grandfather replied, you wouldn't want to know him, he was a bastard. By what I have found out from another source in England, it appears Harry Norman may have married again without divorcing Flora Elizabeth. So my grandfather may have had step siblings he never knew about in England. It's all quite a puzzle. My Killick ancestors are interred inside a church in Edenbridge, I visited in 1971."
This answers some of the questions concering Harry after the 1881 England census, but raises two others:
- if Harry Noman emigrated in June 1889, how did he manage to marry in New Zealand in 1886 has an image of an index to passport applications which includes an entry for 16 August 1888 for H N Killick - almost certainly this Harry Norman I should think.
- the index record in NZ MDM online for Harry Norman Killick's marriage in 1886 gives his bride's name as Caroline Bertha Campbell. There's a death index record of 1903 for Caroline Barker Killick. So was she Brown(e) or Campbell (or both, through multiple marriages) and Bertha or Barker?

Ancestry's England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995 has a record for the death of Harry Norman Killick on 23 May 1947 in Richmond Surrey but the corresponding BMD index record shows his age at death as 49 - so this was probably the Harry Norman Killick whose birth was registered in Kensington in Q3 1896. 
KILLICK, Harry Norman (I5320)
10758 There are two IGI entries for Sarah, one for her baptism at Rackheath on 14 May 1820, the other for her marriage, which suggests she was born in 1821.
It is thought that Sarah died between 1852 and 1854 - in 1861 Henry RAYNER was living with wife Martha (prev. HOWARD) whom he married in Q4 1854 (St Faith 4b/271). They had living with them 5 RAYNER children ranging from 15 down to 2 (the last must have been Martha's child), two HOWARD children and Henry M. RAYNER (17). The latter must have been Sarah's son by Henry MINTER, born on 3 March 1844 before Sarah and Henry married. At a guess, the 'M' stood for 'Minter'. The 1861 census says that Henry was born in Horsham St Faiths - the birth certificate says Rackheath. 
Minter, Sarah (I142)
10759 There are uncertainties in this family's history. What appears here is my best estimation of the story and is based on the following.

1. When the family first appeared here its head was Mary Ann Minter, who appeared in the 1861 census with three children, Charlotte, Emily and William. Mary Ann's marital status wasn't shown and at that point there was little indication of the identity of her husband. The best clues are that when daughters Emily married in 1873 and Caroline in 1878 they gave their father's name as William Minter, labourer (1873) and coal heaver (1878) (they didn't indicate whether their father was alive or not).

2. More recently (August 2014) further items of information have come to light which show pretty conclusively that Mary Ann's husband was William Minter and that Mary Ann's maiden name was NORTON:
- the 1841 birth certificate for Caroline Minter, father William Minter, labourer, mother Mary Minter formerly Norton.
- the 1856 birth certificate for Emily Minter, father William Minter, labourer, mother Mary Minter formerly Norton.
- an 1851 census entry, recorded as HUNTER, which includes William (37) and Mary (25) and daughters Caroline (9) and Mary (4), living at 25 Lawrence Street, Chelsea.
- an 1841 census entry for William Minter, Charlotte NORTON and her children George (18), Caroline (16) and Mary (15), all living at the same address in Lewers Building, Chelsea. Lewers Building appears to have been in Lawrence Street. This Mary Norton is almost certainly she who became William Minter's wife. The only thing missing is a marriage certificate or entry in the BMD index, suggesting that William and Mary might not actually have married.

There remain some unanswered questions:
- who were William's parents? There's a case to be made for William being the son of Henry and Elizabeth Minter, as well as being the brother of Matthew Minter, currently the 'head' of the Chelsea group. The following baptisms appear in the baptismal register of St Luke's, Chelsea:
- 4 Jan 1818, born 7 Oct 1817, Henry William son of Henry & Elizabeth, Kingshott Brompton, sailor. This is a mystifying entry - 'Kingshott Brompton' appears to be an address but I can find no such place. On the other hand. Kingshott was the maiden name of the Elizabeth who married Henry Minter in St Martin in the Fields on 13 Feb 1817 - see the Thanet group.
- 2 Nov 1828, born 11 Apr 1823, Matthew son of Henry & Elizabeth, Cook's Ground, chaff cutter.
- 2 Nov 1828, born 11 Aug 1827, Mary daughter of Henry & Elizabeth, Cook's Ground, chaff cutter.
- 30 Jan 1831, born 1 Jan 1831, John son of Henry & Elizabeth, Cook's Ground, chaff cutter.
- 28 Mar 1832, born 10 Mar 1832, John son of Henry & Elizabeth, Cook's Ground, chaff cutter.

- William and Mary were probably the parents of the following children but birth certificates are needed to verify this:
- Jane, registered in the same quarter and with the same reg. number as Caroline, and therefore probably a twin; she died aged 8 in Q4 1849
- William George, registered Q2 1844, died aged 5 in Q4 1849. William and Jane were definitely siblings and were buried together on 27 December 1849

- there's no sign of William Minter's death, which probably occurred between 1865 and 1871 (when Mary was described as a widow in that year's census).

Mary Ann first appears (as Mary) in the 1861 census at 18 Lombard Street, Chelsea. Her position in the household is not stated; marital status appears to be 'Mar' (married). Aged 38, charwoman, born Fulham. With Mary were 2 daughters and a son, all born Chelsea, Charlotte (19) [in the light of later censuses, this age looks wrong], Emily (5) and William (2).

In 1871 Mary, now stated to be a widow aged 43, charwoman, born W Kensington, lived at 85 Ifield Road, Kensington. The comment 'ill health' could relate to Mary but is written on the same line as her daughter Charlotte, whose age was given as 18. Two other daughters were also present, Emily (15) and 'Marg' (5). No sign of William - he might have died in Q3 1864.

In 1881 Mary was living at 25 Portman Road, Chelsea. She was a widow, aged 54, a charwoman. Living with her were her daughter Charlotte OWEN (26, married) and her granddaughter Florence MINTER (9), presumably Charlotte's illegitimate daughter. Florence is noted as being deaf & dumb. 
Minter, William (I9)
10760 There has been confusion over Samuel Minter. Until now (April 2016), John & Elizabeth were thought to have had two sons named Samuel:
- the first, to have been baptised at Needham on 25 Jun 1739 and buried at Needham on 8 February 1746/47.
- the second, to have been baptised ay Needham on 8 April 1749 and buried at St Peter, Needham on 8 April 1750.

Dick Moore has examined the Needham Parish Register and found that "the baptism marriage and burial records are all intermixed and some upside down". Dick concludes that there ever was only one Samuel baptised 25 June1739 and buried 8 February 1750/51. I have adopted this conclusion. 
Minter, Samuel (I816)
10761 There has been some uncertainty about Elizabeth's story. At one time it was thought that she was baptised and buried on the same day, 2 December 1770. Further investigation resulted in the following comments in correspondence with Graham Minter.
1. Graham Minter to me, 20 August 2012:
I forgot to cover Elizabeth Minter in my comments. You may recall that you had her as baptised and buried in Eyke on the same day, 2-12-1770. That in itself is unlikely, but then you found a marriage of an Elizabeth Minter in Eyke on 9 July 1795. I've checked the records and there is indeed a burial of Elizabeth on 2-12-1770 and she is the daughter of John and Sarah. However, there is no baptism record on that date and I assume that someone read the burial record and mistook it for a baptism one. I have not found a baptism record for Elizabeth from an earlier date. I did not search for one this time, but have looked for (and found) children of John and Sarah in both the Eyke and the Campsea Ash records in the past, but no Elizabeth. As for the Elizabeth who married in 1795, she could be unrelated, or John and Sarah could have had another daughter, whom they also named Elizabeth, sometime after 1770. In the absence of any evidence of a link, I am inclined to the former as John and Sarah were getting on by that stage, I have found no record of a baptism record and there is no evidence of them moving away from Eyke at that time.
2. Me to Graham Minter, 25 September 2012:
I went to the library today to have another look at Stella [Herbert]'s fiche covering 1770 baptisms and burials. I totally agree with you: there is an entry for the «u»burial«/u» of Elizabeth, daughter of John and Sarah Minter on 2 December 1770. There is no entry for the baptism of Elizabeth the same day, or indeed in the few years before 1770. My feeling is that the minister made a mistake and wrote 'buried' instead of 'baptised'. It wouldn't have been difficult to make this mistake - this was a mixed register and the entry before Elizabeth's is for a burial. I also think that the 1795 marriage of Elizabeth Minter and William Cook, which was witnessed by William and Matthew Minter, was very likely of the Elizabeth baptised on 2 December 1770 (ie John & Sarah's daughter). As you say, it seems unlikely, because of Sarah's age, that John and Sarah had a second daughter called Elizabeth.
Would you be agreeable to adopting 2 Dec 1770 as Elizabeth's baptismal date and 9 Jul 1795 as her marriage (to William Cook) date?

The upshot of the above is that we have agreed, pending further investigation, to adopt the suggestion in the final paragraph above. 
Minter, Elizabeth (I26)
10762 There is a Boyd's Marriage Index entry for Edward Minter marrying Mary Johnson at Boxted in 1787.

As of December 2003, it is assumed that Edward Minter moved to Boxted at some point, perhaps when he married Mary Johnson, and is the ancestor of the 'Boxted Minters'. Note however that even without this probable link, the two groups eventually became linked when Blanche Minter of Boxted married Charles Ernest Minter of Great Horkesley in 1925.

The 1830 Essex Poll Book, Lexden and Witham, has an entry for Edward Minter, of Boxted, owner/occupier of house and land in Boxted. (Source, UK, Poll Books and Electoral Registers, 1538-1893).

August 2011: Found in the National Archives:
Copy order of Colchester petty sessions for Edward Minter farmer to pay 9s. 6d. weekly for the upkeep of his daughter Hannah Taylor and 4 children (31 March) [see Q/SBb 509/65] Boxted.

Darren Bedingfield has kindly sent me the following transcripts relative to Edward Minter's dispute over support of his daughter Hannah:

«b»Edward Minter v Hannah Taylor

1. Court Order of 31 March 1832
«/b»County of Essex
The order of Sir George Henry Smyth, Baronet and The Reverend William Milton Thurlock, two of His Majestys Justices of the Peace acting in and for the said County one whereof is the quorum made at a Petty Sessions held at Colchester Castle in the said County the thirty first day of March in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty two upon an application to us the Justices aforesaid at the said Petty Sessions by the Churchwardens and Overseers of the poor of the parish of Boxtead in the county of Essex to have an order made on Edward Minter of Boxtead aforesaid, Farmer, for him to maintain his daughter Hannah Taylor, widow, and her four children, namely James, Robert, William, and John Taylor and who is poor and unable to work so as to maintain and support herself and her said four children and chargeable to the said parish of Boxtead he the said Edward Minter being a person of sufficient ability to maintain and provide for his daughter and said four children. And the said Edward Minter having been summoned to appear before us the Justices aforesaid at the Petty Sessions held at Colchester Castle on the 3«sup»rd«/sup» day of March now instant to the end and in order that we might examine the cause and circumstances of the Premises but when and where he the said Edward Minter did not shew any sufficient cause why such order should not be made and we having heard the parties so complaining and duly considered the circumstances of the said complaints as well as the want of any adequate defence of the part of the said Edward Minter do adjudge and determine that the said Hannah Taylor is poor and unable to work so as to maintain and support herself and her said four children and is actually chargeable to the said parish of Boxtead. And we do further adjudge that the said Edward Minter is a person of sufficient ability to maintain and provide for his said daughter and her said four children. We therefore do Order that the said Edward Minter shall and do forthwith upon notice of this our order pay or cause to be paid to the Churchwardens and Overseers of the poor of the said parish of Boxtead for the time being or to some or one of them weekly and every week from this present time the sum of nine shillings and six pence for and toward the sustentation relief maintenance and support of the said Hannah taylor and her said four children for and during so long time as the said Hannah Taylor and her said four children shall be chargeable to the said parish of Boxtead or until the said Edward Minter shall be locally directed to the contrary. Given under our hands and seals at Colchester Castle aforeasaid the day and year first above written.
G.H. Smyth
W.M. Thurlock
2. Newspaper reports
«/b» 1. Essex Standard 24 March 1832 p3
A man of the name of Minter, of the parish of Boxted, in Essex, who summoned to show cause why he suffered his daughter and her family to become chargeable to the parish. It had been arranged on a former hearing, that a party should be mutually appointed to visit Mr Minter's farm and property, and report upon its value: and that report was now read, showing that the farm extended to 18 acres, worth £30 a year rent; and the value of the premises & co was at least £900. This report, however, was not permitted to be put in as evidence, and the case occasioned a great deal of discussion - Mr Smithies contending that before the magistrates could make any order on Minter, it was incumbent on them to prove, that after Minter had duly provided for the maintenance of his own family and establishment, there was an overplus to support the family of another. The chairman drew a strong parallel between the case of Minter, worth £900 and that of a man possessed of a donkey, the latter of whom could not be relieved by the parish, while he had the donkey or anything else that he could call his own. If the premise of Mr Smithies was correct, then were the decisions of the bench ... in error for the last twenty years? The chairman added that it was a perversion - a shameful perversion - of the poor laws, to maintain that a man possessed of so much property, or any property, could come upon the parish for relief. Mr Smithies in reply, stated that this was not the case of a man refusing to maintain his own family but the family of another, for the support of whom special provisions had been made - it was quite a different branch of the law: besides which, it was impossible for the parish to show that Minter derived a greater income from the produce of his farm than was barely sufficient for the maintenance of his own establishment. In short, the bench could not make any order on Minter. Several parishioners who were present stated that the expense already incurred by this family amounted to £60 and a current allowance was paid out of the poor's rate of 9s a week. They were quite happy to meet Minter half way in the support of his daughter and four grandchildren, but they thought that for a man possessed of so much property, it was too much to take away from the portion so allotted for the poor by law. The bench unanimously directed an order for 9s 9d a week to be made on Minter for the maintenance of his daughter and her family, and if the legality of their decisions were doubted, an appeal lay at the sessions.
2. Essex Standard 10 Nov 1832 p2
Mr Smithies and Mr Serjeant were then heard on the merits of the case between the parishioners of Boxted and Minter. It will be recollected that this long standing difference consisted in the refusal of Minter to sustain his grandchildren, who became a serious burden upon the parish; and that upon an appeal, the court of Chelmsford decided it had no jurisdiction. It was agreed this day, that the amount of allowance to be in future paid by Minter should be left to the arbitration of two well qualified persons, to be appointed by the parties-an arrangement which came from Mr Smithies, and seemed to give great satisfaction.
3. Chelmsford Chronicle, 1 February 1833
At the castle, on Saturday night, the case of Minter, of Boxted, was disposed of. Minter has considerable property, and refused to repay a sum of between £60 and £70, expended by the parish for the maintenance of one of his family. Persons had been appointed to value Minter's property, and decide upon what weekly allowance he ought to pay. They this day reported that in addition to 1s a week, formerly paid by Minter, he ought to pay 4s more. At last it was agreed that he should in future pay 5s a week, but that all retrospective claims should be given up. It was stated that Minter has 42 children and grandchildren. His property was valued at about £800.

1841 census: in Boxted, Edward (75, farmer) and Mary (75).

1851 census: Edward, 86 a widower, was a farmer of 18 acres employing one man, in Boxted. He lived alone apart from a general servant, Elizabeth SEBBORN, 27, born Ardleigh, Essex. The next entry on the census page is for John Minter, 56, Edward's son.

Kelly's Post Office Directory Home Counties 1852, lists E Minter, farmer, Boxted, Colchester.

Buried aged 88. Daren Bedingfield kindly supplied a transcription of Edward's Will:
This is the will of Edward Minter this day proved before me on the oaths of Thomas Whitaker and Isaac Page the executors who were sworn duly to administer and that the goods chattels of the deceased are under the value of two hundred pounds, before me the 21st January 1854
Samuel Carr
Testator died at Boxted, Essex 26th December 1853
This is the last will and testament of me Edward Minter of Boxted in the county of Essex, farmer. First I nominate, constitute and appoint Thomas Whitaker of Boxted, aforesaid, farmer and Isaac Page of West Bergholt in the said county, farmer, executors of this my will.
I give and devise unto my son John Minter all that allotment or parcel of land containing two acres and a half more or less situated in Boxted and formerly parcel of Boxted Heath and now in my own occupation. To hold to my said son John Minter his heirs and assigns for ever. Also I give and devise unto the said Thomas Whitaker and Isaac Page and their heirs all and every the freehold messuages lands tenements and hereditaments of which I shall die seized or entitle to upon trust that they or the survivors of them his heirs, executors and administrators that they do and shall as soon as conveniently may be after my decease and at such time or times as they in their discretion shall deem most desirable absolutely sell and dispose of the same either together or in parcels and by public auction or private contract for the best price that can reasonably be obtained for the same with full liberty to buy in the said lands and hereditaments at any public sale or to cancel any contract and to resell the lot or lots without being liable for any deficiency arising thereby also I direct the said Thomas Whitaker and Isaac Page or the survivor of them, his heirs executors or administrations in like manner to sell and dispose of all and every the copyright or customary lands tenements and hereditiments of which I shall be seized or entitled to and I declare that the receipt or receipts of the said Thomas Whitaker and Isaac Page or the survivors of them, his heirs, executors or administrators shall be a good and sufficient discharge or a good and sufficient discharges to the purchaser or purchasers of my said freehold and copyright lands, tenements and hereditiments who shall not after their payment of their respective purchase monies and taking such receipt or receipts or obliged to see the application thereof nor be answerable to the misapplication or non application of the same or any part thereof. Also I direct my said executors at such time as they think most desirable to sell and dispose of all my household furniture, farming live and dead stock, goods, chattels and effects and as to the monies arising from the sales of my aforesaid real and personal estate, and from all the rest of the residue of my personal estate whatsoever and wheresoever after payment thereout of my just debts, funeral and testamentary expenses I dispose thereof as follows:
- I give and bequeath to my son William Minter the sum of ten pounds and to his daughter Maria Minter the sum of thirty pounds.
- I give and bequeath to my said son John Minter the sum of nineteen pounds and nineteen shillings.
- I give and bequeath unto each of the four children of my late daughter Susan Webb living at my decease the sum of ten pounds.
- I give and bequeath unto my daughter in law formerly the wife and afterwards the widow of my son Thomas Minter the sum of ten pounds. And I give and bequeath unto each of the four children of my said son Thomas Minter who shall be living at my decease ten pounds all which legacies I direct shall be paid as soon as conveniently after my decease.
And as to the residue of the said monies I direct the same shall be divided into four equal parts and be disposed of as follows namely -
- To my daughter Sarah Elmer I give and bequeath one fourth part for her own use and benefit absolutely
- To my daughter Elizabeth Seaborn I give and bequeath another fourth part thereof for her own use and benefit absolutely.
- To my daughter Mary White I give and bequeath another fourth part thereof for her own use and benefit absolutely.
And as to the remaining fourth part or share I direct my said executors to place the same out of interest in their names upon government on good security and to pay the interest and dividends into the proper hands of my daughter Hannah Smith for and during her natural life whose receipt alone shall be sufficient in discharge for the same and the said interest and dividends shall not be liable to the debts, control or engagements of her present or any future husband. And upon the decease of my said daughter I give and bequeath the principal money unto and equally between her children share and share alike. Providing nevertheless that if at any time my said daughter Hannah should be in affliction or want and my said executors or the survivor of them his executors or administrations should deem it desirable to pay her any sum or sums of money out of the said fourth part they shall have full power from time to time to do such payments not to exceed altogether the sum of thirty pounds. And I authorise and empower my executors for the time being when any legacy under this my will has vested in any infant to please the same out at interest upon government or good security and to pay or apply the interest and dividends for the benefit of such infant notwithstanding minority with full liberty also for my said executors in their discretion to advance all or any part of the principal money for the support, education or advancement in life of any such infant notwithstanding minority.
And hereby revoking all former wills I declare this to be my last will and testament.
In witness whereof I the said Edward Minter, the testator, have hereunto set my hand this twenty third day of July one thousand eight hundred and fifty three.

X The mark of Edward Minter 
Minter, Edward (I582)
10763 There is a Miss Barbara Minter in the J Lyons & Co obituary list - said to have died 1999; Lyons Maid. Minter, Barbara Jane (I1528)
10764 There is a photo of France's grave at the Sandi Laidlaw Family Tree at Ancestry. BURTON, Frances (I1460)
10765 There is a quite major disconnect concerning one of Watson and Frances' children as listed at This source has 9 children attributed to Watson and Frances, including Joseph Warren Minter Sr, born 1823 - 1827, Virginia.
Another source, Don Chamberlayne, has Joseph Warren Minter as the son of Silas and Nancy (Stultz) Minter.
I (John Minter) am omitting Joseph Warren from the list of Watson and Frances' children (but am including the other 8).

The 1840 United States Federal Census of Henry County list Obediah MINTER as the head of a family comprising 2 males 5 - 9 years, 2 males 10 - 14 years, 1 male 20 - 29 years, 1 male 40 - 49 years, 1 female under 5, 1 female 5 - 9 years, 1 female 15 - 19 years, 1 female 40 - 49 years and 1 female 50 - 59 years.

1850 United States Federal Census of Henry County (done on 27 July 1850) (all MINTER except Polly COVINGTON), Obediah (55, farmer), Fanny (52), Polly COVINGTON (70), Joseph (23, no occupation, idiot), James F (21, farmer), Obediah E (19, farmer), Sarah F (17), Daniel S (16, farmer), Elizabeth A (12) and Jane (10). Also Nancy F ALLEN (12) and Obediah ALLEN (10).

Watson died in 1855.

1860 United States Federal Census of Henry County (done on 4 July 1860)Frances MINTER (60), Haley COOPER (30, overseer), Eliz COOPER (23), Eleanor COOPER (4), Ginett COOPER (female, 2). Also 2 SHELTON children, Jenny (8) and Jas (7).

1870 United States Federal Census of Henry County (done on 15 July 1870), in Leatherwood, Henry, Virginia: Frances MINTER (70, keeping house), P--- GILBERT (34, male, farm labor), Ann GILBERT (female, 32, at home). Plus 4 other young people. 
Minter, Watson Obediah (I1163)
10766 There is a record in the Queensland Historical Deaths Index for Christopher Charles Minter Lethbridge (son of Robert Copland Lethbridge and Ella Minter) giving 1876 as his death year, Reg. no. C1434. It's not clear whether there were two similarly named children. LETHBRIDGE, Christopher Minter (I637)
10767 There is a second IGI record for John's baptism which gives the date as 8 July 1826, at Brunswick & Park Wesleyan Chapels, Norfolk Street, Sheffield. It's not clear whether John was baptised twice but it does seem that John (sen) and Sarah's first three children were all baptised on Christmas Day 1830.

Brendan Molloy expains how John and his wife may have met: "George [John's father] had a shop and lived on Coalpit Lane with family, he made fenders across the road at Cross Burgess Street, across the road on Burgess Street lived Joseph Smith and his sister Sarah with their aunt and uncle."

January 2008: contact with Anne Thompson via Genes reunited. Anne and I are very distantly related - as Anne puts it "Your great-great-grandfather John Gregory(1826) married Sarah Smith, the sister of my great-great-grandfather Joseph Smith(1830).
It seems Joseph married Sarah Turton whose father Edward was in the same trade (making fenders) as John Gregory and John's father George, and they lived all in the same part of central Sheffield."

1861 census: at 7 Reginald Street, Eccleshall Bierlow, Sheffield, John (34, kitchen fender maker), Sarah (34), Mary Hannah (9, scholar), Fanny (3) and Sarah's brother Thomas SMITH (25, unmarried, desert knife fluter, born Sheffield).

When son John (junior) was born in 1863, John senior was a Fender maker, living at 30 Wilson Street, Brightside Bierlow. When John married in 1886, John senior was still a Fender manufacturer.

1871 census: at 10 Reginald Street, Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield, John (44, fender maker), Sarah (44), Mary H (19, domestic), Fanny (13, scholar), John (7, scholar) and Sarah's brother Thomas SMITH (35, unmarried, desert knife fluter, born Sheffield).

1881 census: at 124 Fitzalan Street, Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield, John (54, fender manufacturer employing 1 man & 1 boy), Sarah (54), Fanny (23) and John (17, forger of fenders).

1891 census: at 75 Sedan Street, Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield, John (widower, 64, fender manufacturer) and Fanny (33).

1901 census: at 51 Fox Street, Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield, John (widower, 74, fender maker on own account) and Fanny (43).

DEATH: Cause of death: senile decay, heart failure. Informant: John Gregory of 24 Thoresby Road. Age at death, 80. Retired Fender Manufacturer.

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941, at, November 2010
GREGORY John of 24 Thoresby-road Walkley-lane Sheffield died 13 June 1906 Probate London 30 July 1906 to John Gregory fender-manufacturer. Effects £1210 13s. 
GREGORY, John (I962)
10768 There is a second IGI record for Thomas's baptism which gives the date as 25 December 1831.

November 2007: Brendan Molloy, whose tree is on Genes Reunited, is connected to the Gregory family via Thomas Gregory's daughter Catherine, who married Simon Heavey from Galway, Ireland. Ann Powell, Brendan's cousin is also descended from Catherine Gregory. Both have provided a lot of additional information about the Gregorys.

1861 census: at No. 4 Court, 165 Portobello, Sheffield, Thomas (29, fender maker), Harriett (21) and Emily (4). Emily's was probably the birth registered in Q4 1856. The IGI has her baptism as 3 October 1866 - presumably a transcription error. 
GREGORY, Thomas (I1266)
10769 There is a small amount of doubt whether the 1868 marriage of Charles Minter and Martha Pearce relates to this Charles Minter. In 1861 Charles was 13 and living with his father William (and his mother and brothers and sisters) in Camberwell Lane, Lambeth. William was described as a cowkeeper (in 1871 the description was farmer, in 1881 dairyman and in 1891 retired dairyman). When Charles married he was living in Lambeth and married in the parish church of St Mary Lambeth, and would have been 18, ie (just) of full age. He gave his father's name as William, occupation dairy man.

In 1871 Martha was living in Lilford Street, Lambeth, aged 25, married, with her daughter Elizabeth aged 2. Although Martha was shown as married, Charles wasn't there and despite extensive searches cannot be found anywhere. Martha's daughter Elizabeth was born on 7 September 1868 in the Lambeth Workhouse, Princes Street. This plus the fact that Charles cannot be found in 1871 suggests that the marriage may have been one of convenience, with Charles 'disappearing' very quickly.

Post Office Directory, Surrey 1878 has Charles Minter, dairyman, Thicket Grove, Anerly Road, Upper Norwood, London SE.

By 1881 Martha, as Martha Spark, aged 36, was living with Frederick Spark and Elizabeth Minter (12) and Oliver and Lilian Spark. There is no trace of Martha and Frederick marrying (Roz Grevett, a great-granddaughter, says they never married). Also in 1881 there was a Charles Minter, aged 34, a dairyman, born Canterbury living in Thicket Grove, Penge with his wife Ellen A., 32, born Wales Bristol (Bristol isn't in Wales!). It's not clear whether Charles was free to marry Ellen in 1879. (It may be significant that when Charles married Ellen Vale in 1879 he was described in the register as 'bachelor'.) There is no trace of either of them in 1891 or 1901, but their daughter Clara has been found in 1891 and 1901 - see her Notes.

Roz Grevett adds that Frederick and Martha separated and Frederick is believed then to have married Lucretia.

One of the sons of Oliver Spark, John, was a well known thief in England and was known as Ruby Sparks. He had written a book on his life "Burglar To The Nobility" by Ruby Sparks as told to Norman Price. 
Minter, Charles (I332)
10770 There is an unresolved question about Ffloyd's birth/death dates - the record at the Australia Cemetery Index says his age at death was 10 minutes. Minter, Ffloyd (I940)
10771 There is another 1939 marriage entry for Doreen Sylvia & Arthur Hunter, reg no. 910/1939, Chatswood NSW RD. Family F1231
10772 There is confusion around the dates of Hanna's baptism and burial, which can perhaps be put down to clerical error. The Ickham register of baptisms has:

"1708 October 15 Hanna Daughter of Henery Minter & Ann his wife"
this entry sits between the one dated September 10 and the one dated December 22. It could be therefore that the date should have read '1708 September 15'.

The Ickham register of burials has:

"1708 September 28 [possibly altered from 18] Hanna Daughter of Henry Minter & Ann his wife"
this entry sits between the one dated September 21 and the one dated 0ctober 22.

There is no way of knowing what the true dates were. For the time being they are assumed to have been:
baptism 1708 September 15
burial 1708 September 28. 
Minter, Hanna (I1342)
10773 There is no positive evidence that John, Rachel and Thomas were William and Alice's children.

The IGI has a record for a William Minter, born about 1675, Assington, married Penelope Ralf (sic) in 1700. 
Minter, William (I29)
10774 There is no positive evidence that William was the son of Thomas and Hannah. Minter, William (I19)
10775 There is no sign in the Thorpe-le-Soken Parish Registers of the marriage of John and Mary. The births of their children, apart from Elizabeth, do not appear to have been registered.

1841 census: in Thorp Green, Thorpe-le-Soken, John (30, ag lab), Mary (30), Mary (10), William (4) and Emma (10 months).

1851 census: in Thorpe-le-Soken, John (40, ag lab), Mary (41), William (13), Emma (10), Eliza (4) and Elizabeth (2). Son John (7) was with his grandparents.

1861 census: not found, apart from William and Eliza (qv).

In July 2016 Darren Bedingfield discovered (at SEAX) the documents reproduced as transcriptions below. They explain why John 'disappeared' after his appearance in the 1851 census, but not what became of him.
Settlement Examination concerning John Minter, junior«/b»
John Minter, senior., Mary Ann Minter, William Thompson senior, of Thorpe-le-Soken, farmer, William Mustard. overseer of Tendring, Essex, William Thompson, junior, overseer of Thorpe-le-Soken and Thomas Tye of Thorpe-le-Soken, labourer all re: John Minter, junior. John Minter, senior, father of John Minter, junior: Examinant at present residing in Thorpe-le-Soken, from which parish his wife Mary Ann and 3 of her children are now chargeable. Examinant states that he is 78 years old. 48 years ago he married Alice Smith, spinster, at Thorpe-le-Soken Church and John Minter, junior, is a son of that marriage, and is 46 years old. At the age of 23 John Minter, junior married his present wife, Mary Ann, whose maiden name was Scowen. Examinant states his son has done nothing to obtain a settlement in his own right, and has absconded and cannot be found. When examinant was a young, single, man about 50 or 60 years ago he was hired by Captain Turner who resided on a farm in Tendring, Essex, at the wages of £7 a year. He agreed to begin his service 2 or 3 days after Michaelmas and continued until Michaelmas of the following year. Received his full wages and slept in Tendring more than 40 nights during his service. Before his son's marriage did nothing else to acquire another settlement and was relieved in 1830 and subsequently by the parish of Tendring while resident in Thorpe-le-Soken. Signed with Minter's mark.
Mary Ann Minter neé Scowen: States that she married John Minter, junior, at Kirby-le-Soken Church about 23 years ago and has 6 children: Mary (23), William (15), Emma (13), Eliza (8), Elizabeth (4) and John (8). Knew her husband some time before their marriage but never knew him to do anything to acquire a settlement in his own right. Has received relief from Tendring while resident in Thorpe-le-Soken. States that her husband absconded more than three months ago and does not know where he is. First relieved by Tendring while resident in Thorpe-le-Soken about a month after marriage. Now in receipt of relief in the Union House with 3 of her children. Signed with Mary Ann Minter's mark.
William Thompson of Thorpe-le-Soken, farmer: Produced certificate of Marriage of John Minter, senior and Alice Smith and certificate of baptism of their son John Minter, which he obtained from the vicar of Thorpe-le-Soke, and a certificate of marriage from the parish of Kirby-le-Soken, Essex. A warrant has been placed against John Minter, junior., for deserting his wife and children, but cannot be found.
William Mustard, overseer of Tendring:
Stated that he is one of the overseers of Tendring. Produced an account book containing entries of relief given to John Minter, senior and John Minter, junior in 1830 and 1831 (quotes entries)
William Thompson, junior:
Produced certificate from Tendring Union Board of Guardians as to chargeability of Mary Ann Minter and children Emma, Eliza and Elizabeth.
Thomas Tye: labourer:
Sates that he spoke to John Minter a week before he absconded, while they were both hoeing wheat and beans and learnt of the uncomfortable relationship he had with his wife and his determination to leave her if things did not improve and enlist on a Man of War.
«b»Date of creation: 5 September 1853«/b»

Removal Order of Mary Ann Minter, wife of John Minter, junior and family to Tendring, Essex«/b»
And children Emma (13), Eliza (7) and Elizabeth (4).
[Five items: two copies of removal order; petition for examination of evidence, 5 Sept. 1853; notice to overseers of Tendring of removal, giving grounds (to wit that Mary Ann Minter and her family have been deserted by John Minter, junior, who has no settlement other than that of his father, John Minter, senior, who some 50-60 years ago, as a young, unmarried man acquired a settlement in Tendring as a yearly servant to Captain Turner, occupier of a farm then lately in the occupation of Mrs. Fox), 5 Sept.1853, and certificate from Tendring Guardians, 31 Aug, 1853, that the family became chargeable to Thorpe-le-Soken by receiving relief in the Union Workhouse].
«b»Date of creation: 5 September 1853«/b»
«/b»Darren found the following article from the Essex Standard of 15 July 1853 (it can be seen at

From the Parish of THORPE-LE-SOKEN,
JOHN MINTER, Labourer about 40 years of age; stands 5 feet 7 inches; dark complexion; curly hair; leaving his wife and lamilv chargeable to this parish.
The customary Reward will be given for his apprehension on application to the Overseer." 
Minter, John (I8)
10776 There is no sign of Alice after her birth/baptism: she may have died in infancy. There is a death registration in Q2 1894 (Brentford 3a/67) and a burial at St Mary, Acton in July 1894, but both are in the name Ellen Minter. The burial record (London Metropolitan Archive at Ancestry) is vey hard to read but the address looks like Acton Green and the age at burial might be in weeks or months. The death certificate should help. Minter, Alice (I210)
10777 There is no sign of Charles's birth being registered*. According to the marriage details on FreeGEN, Charles's father's name was George CLUBB, a farmer.
*but as Charles Jim Minter, he was christened in Thornham Magna on 20 May 1838.

1851 census: aged 13, he was a pauper in the House of Industry at Wortham, Suffolk.

1861 census: in Orford Street, St Matthew Ipswich, Suffolk, Charles (21, apprentice tailor).

On 10 April 1867, at the General Gaol Delivery held at Ipswich, Charles and Harriet Minter were acquiited and discharged, having been charged with larceny. It's not clear whether this refers to this Charles Minter but it seems likely.

1871 census: at 6 Friendhip Lane, Hartlepool, Durham, Charles (32, tailor), 'Harrotte' (30), Alfred (4, scholar), Ann E (2) and Sarah E (5 months).

1881 census: at 32 Stainton Street Back, Stranton, Durham. Harriet (widow, 35, charwoman, born 'Twotshall' [presmably Tivetshall], Norfolk), Alfred C (15, rivetter lad (ship)), Elizabeth A (13) and Sarah Ellen (10).

Harriet may have re-married in Q3 1884 (Sculcoates 9d/275) to William Ravenscroft, Thomas Stephens or Herbert Wilshire, but not found in 1891 or 1901 censuses. 
Minter, Charles (I928)
10778 There is no trace of the birth of William's children. In 1841, a Jonathan Minter and his wife were living in the same street as William and his family.

1841 census: in North Street, St Peter Colchester, Essex, William (49, carpenter), Hannah (49), Edward (18, carpenter), Hannah (16) and William (14).

London Gazette 24 December 1844:
WHEREAS the Commissioner acting in the prosecution of a Fiat in Bankruptcy awarded and issued forth against William Minter, of Colchester, in the county of Essex, Builder and Innkeeper, Dealer and Chapman, hath certified to the Judge of the Court of Review in Bankruptcy, that the said William Minter hath in all things conformed himself according to the directions of the Acts of Parliament made and now in force concerning bankrupts; this is to give notice, that, by virtue of an Act, passed in the fifth and sixth years of the reign of Her present Majesty Queen Victoria, intituled " An Act for the amendment of the law in bankruptcy," the Certificate of the said William Minter will be allowed and confirmed by the Court of Review in Bankruptcy, unless cause be shewn to the said Court to the contrary, on or before the 14th day of January 1845.

Appered in Kelly's Post Office Directory, 1845 as a carpenter in North Street, Colchester.

1851 census: in North Street, St Peter Colchester, Essex, William (widower, 58, inn keeper, born Boxted) and daughter Maria [Hannah Maria] (25, housekeeper, born Colchester).

Appeared in Kelly's Directory 1855 as W Minter, carpenter, North Bridge, Colchester.

It's possible that William married for a second time in 1856. The entry in the marriage register for the marriage on 21 July at St Pancras Church was between a William Minter, full age, widower, carpenter of Grafton Street, St Pancras, father Edward Minter, dead, and Harriett Manning, full age, widow of Grafton Street, St Pancras, father Thomas Cook (poss. Cock), dead.
The death of a Harriet Minter was registered in Q2 1860 in Colchester.
The only question that throws some doubt on the 1856 marriage being William's is that it took place in London. But for the time being it's being assumed that it was indeed his marriage.

1861 census: in Provident Place, St Peter Colchester, Essex, William (widower, 69, carpenter) plus a boarder, John SLANEY (46, superannuated from Excise, born Lexden, Essex).
Minter, William (I727)
10779 There is some doubt over Emma's marriage but it seems likely it was she who in 1842 married William HOARE at St John the Evangelist, Lambeth. The most compelling evidence is that her father's name was said to be William John Minter, bootmaker (although in actuality her father's names was William Pettet Minter and he was dead by 1842). Other factors are (1) that the Emma who married in 1842 was said to have been a minor, as this Emma Minter would have been and (2) one of the witnesses was names GARDNER, the surname of one of Emma's sisters-in-law.

This may all be wrong however! 
Minter, Emma (I52)
10780 There is some uncertainty about Arthur's death - the index gives his birth date as 3 October 1887 but he was registered in Q3 1884. But no other Arthur Albert Bibby death has been found. BIBBY, Arthur Albert (I2660)
10781 There is some uncertainty about Lucy's name. Some family trees at show her marrying John HICKS in 1800, when her maiden surname was RIVERS.

Lucy's death was registered as Lucy Worts BLOSS. 
HICKS, Lucy Worts (I1787)
10782 There is uncertainty about Samuel's birth date/age. In the 1851 census, when he lived with his parents, his age was given as 16 impying a birth year of 1834 or 1835. But in the 1861 census his age was shown as 37 implying a birth year of 1823 or 1824.

Because of this it cannot safely be assumed that the person referred to in these two censuses was the same individual. Neither can it be assumed with certainty that the parents of the Samuel who gave his age as 37 in 1861 were John and Elizabeth Turkington.

However, it's possible that in 1861 either Samuel lied about his age or the enumerator got it wrong, and that the age should have been shown as 27.

The 1870 death of a Samuel Turkington is assumed to relate to this Samuel but again there's an age discrepancy - the Samuel who died in 1870 was said to be 33.

Notwithstanding all these uncertainties, I've assumed that Samuel was the son of John & Elizabeth and that he was born in Liverpool about 1824.

The 1841 census might help but cannot be found.

1861 census: at 14 Lower Thurlow Street, Islington, Liverpool (all TURKINGTON, all born Liverpool), Saml. (37, ---- labourer), Jane (35) and Saml. (6 months).

Samuel appears to have died in Q1 1870 and Jane apparently remarried in the next quarter. For details of 1871 census, see the Notes for Jane's new husband John DOUGLAS. 
TURKINGTON, Samuel (I5007)
10783 There may have been another child: the IGI has Rebecca Priscilla baptised 7 October 1829 in Marlesford, parents William Minter and Rebecca Wright. Minter, William (I1)
10784 There seem to be several ways John's name was spelled including:
HADAWAY (marriage register, 1840)
HADDORWAY (baptism of daughter Hannah)
OLTTAVSEY and ....TAWAY (baptism of son John)
ATTAWAY (baptism of daughter Jane Amelia)
HADAWAY, John (I2790)
10785 There was a Sarah REASON, age 21, born Chelsea, living as a visitor with Hannah GREEN, a widow with 5 children, at 4 Lawrence Street, Chelsea, in the 1851 census. REASON, Sarah (I2)
10786 There was some confusion about birth places but the following census entries appear to refer to Benjamin and Maria:

1881 census: at 6a Maryland Rd, Paddington (all ISAAC), Benjamin (head, 24, fishmonger, born Paddington), Maria (wife, 29, born Nottinghamshire) and Helen Maud (daughter, 1, born Paddington). Also a lodger, Henry Mar---- (24).

1891 census: not found.

1901 census: at 40 Robert St, St Pancras, London (all ISAAC), Benjamin (head, 44, fishmongers assistant, born Paddington), Maria (wife, 50, born Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire) and Grace (daughter, 12, born Paddington).

1911 census: Benjamin, a widower who had been married 34 years and had 2 children, both living, was now aged 54, a fishmonger's shop hand. He was boarding with Mrs Eileen CRONIN (45) and her daughter Mary) at 30 Stanhope Street, St Pancras, London, 2 roomed tenement. 
ISAAC, Benjamin (I769)
10787 There were two birth registrations for Lewis Pilcher in Canterbury in 1838:
Q1 1838 Canterbury 5/86
Q3 1838 Canterbury 5/60.

According to the Doggetts of Stoke Newington tree at, Lewis and Jane had 9 children including the two who married MORPHYs. 
PILCHER, Lewis (I5248)
10788 There were two Marys married in Q4 1842 at Abergavenny, Mary FARADAY/FERADEY and Mary WEAL. I haven't been able to work out which one married Thomas Hill.

1851 census: in Cwm Jenkin, Llanwenarth, Monmouthshire, (all HILL), Thomas (head, 37, nailor, born Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire), Mary (27, born Abergavenny, Monmouthshire), William (5, born Stow water, Gloucestershire), Thomas (3, born Rhyming(?), Monmouthshire) and James (2, born Llanwenarth, Monmouthshire).

1861 census: in Ash Bank, Butchers Lane, Cradley, Staffordshire, Mary A (head [where was Thomas?], 37, horse nail makers wife, born Abergavenny, Monmouthshire), William (16, forgeman, born Stroud water, Gloucestershire), Thomas (12, forgeman, born Romee(Rhymney), Breckonshire), James (10, born Guvisland, Monmouthshire), John (8, born Guvisland, Monmouthshire), Mary A (6, born Guvisland, Monmouthshire), Sidney (4, born Cradley, Staffordshire) and Hannah (4 days, birthplace not stated, see below - Cradley).

1871 census: at 14 & 15 Bridge Street, Merthy Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales, Thomas (60, nailer, born Little Dean, Gloucester), Mary (52, housekeeper, born Abergavenny, Mon.), James (22, puddler, born Coviland, Mon.), John (19, puddler, born Coviland, Mon.), Mary Ann (16, at home, born Coviland, Mon.), Sidney (14, seizing in iron works, born Cradley, Staffordshire), Hannah (9, scholar, born Cradley, Staffordshire) and William (1, born Merthyr, Glamorgan).
Son Thomas and his family lived in the same house.

Note: references above to Guvisland and Coviland above and Queenland below are assumed to be to Govilon, a couple of miles west of Abergavenny.

1881 census: at 28 Browns Row, Stockton on Tees, Thomas HILL (head, 70, nailer, born Forest of Dean), Mary HILL (wife, 56, born Abergevenny, Wales), Thomas HILL (son, widower, 34, puddler, born Ruminey(Rhymney)), John HILL (son, 28 unmarried, puddler, born Queenland(?), Mary Ann HILL (daughter, 23, born Queenland(?)), Sidney (son, 21, blacksmith, born Staffordshire), John (grandson [Thomas junr's son], 10, scholar, born Merthyr Tydfil) and (in a separate abode at the same address) Caroline THOMAS (head, 20, married, out of employment, born Merthyr Tydfil) and Rees THOMAS (her son, 11 weeks, born Stockton on Tees, Durham). 
HILL, Thomas (I1582)
10789 There's a big discrepany between the birth date shown on Mary Ann's tombstone, and censuses. HARDIN, Mary Ann (I6546)
10790 There's a copy of Gladys's death certificate at, which also has the following:

GLADYS IRENE MINTER-BRYANT was born in 1901 at Hopkins County, Texas to Lynn and Pearl Minter.

Gladys Married Farrar Ingram Hunter Bryant on 14 September 1923 in Pine Forest, Hopkins County, Texas, and they had TWO daughters: Virginia Louise Bryant-Howle (1925-living) and Alice Ann Bryant(Bain)-Rose (1930-living).

Gladys passed away in 1953 and was buried at the Pine Forest Methodist Church Cemetery in the Family Plot. 
Minter, Gladys Irene (I2668)
10791 There's a discrepancy with Van's birth date: it was shown in the 1900 census as Jan 1888 but his WW1 Registration Card (at shows 21 March 1886, as does his tombstone. I have used the 1886 date.

1910 United States Federal Census: in District 0131, Justice Precinct 8, Red River, Texas (all MINTER), Vanmay (head, 24, married 1 year, born Alabama, farmer), Grace (wife, 17, married 1 year, 1 child, born Alabama) and Chester (son, 3 months, born Texas). Also Dee (brother, 20, born Alabama, farmer).
Next entry is for father.

1920 United States Federal Census: in District 0161, Justice Precinct 8, Red River, Texas (all MINTER), Van (head, 33, born Alabama, farmer), Grace (wife, 27, born Alabama), Chester (son, 10, born Texas), Lester (son, 8, born Texas), Earl (daughter*, 5, born Texas) and Wayne (son, 2, born Texas).
* probably Early Andrew, son, born 21 Aug 1914.

1930 United States Federal Census: not found.

1940 United States Federal Census: in Red River, Texas (all MINTER), Van (head, 54, born Alabama, farmer), Grace (wife, 45, born Alabama), Milton (son, 19, farm worker), Myrlie (daughter, 16), Junior (son, 14), Ruby Jean (daughter, 12), Mary Ray (daughter, 8) and Hollis L-- (son, 4). All the children were born in Red River County. 
Minter, William Evanda "Van" (I6983)
10792 There's a gravestone in the Minter Family Cemetery in Leatherwood inscribed H. DANIEL MINTER JR. AUG 7, 1936. This date is assumed to be Horatio's birth date - there's no indication that he has died (Dec 2014). Minter, Horatio Daniel Jun. (I1105)
10793 There's a lot of information about William Minter at John B Minter's page here: 
Minter, William (I4508)
10794 There's a mystery surrounding Albert's first marriage, for which I have the marriage certificate copy. The precise details are as follows:
Marriage by licence at the Register Office, Croydon on 24 January 1918. Albert Edward Minter, 23, bachelor, seaman merchant service of 48 Silcott Street, Brightlingsea, Essex, father Albert Edward Minter, marine engineer. Millicent Alice Saunders, 30, widow of 33 Moffat Road, Thornton Heath, father John Monloy (sic), master baker. Witnesss J Minter, F Foster.
I've tried all sorts of searches to find Millicent prior to marriage, and to try and find out what happened after the marriage and before Albert married Dorothy in 1923. 'Monloy' looks like a transcription error and could be 'Manley'. If so Millicent could have been she whose birth was registered in Q4 1888 at Lewisham (1d/1149). But I've been unable to trace a marriage to 'Saunders', or any death of a 'Saunders' which might have been Millicent's husband.
If Millicent's father was John MANLEY, he could be the man whose death was registered at Croydon in Q1 1891.

1939 Register: at Dene Villa, North Road, Milford Haven U.D., Pembrokeshire, Wales
Minter, Albert E born 14 Jul 1894, married, ship's rigger
Minter, Dorothy A born 3 Sep 1902, married, unpaid domestic duties
--- 1 closed record ---
DAVIES, Charles J born 3 Feb 1898, married, carpenter.
Ernest C Minter and family are on the same page.

Probate Llandaff 6 May 1976 £12,030. 
Minter, Albert Edward (I79)
10795 There's a mystery surrounding Albert's first marriage, for which I have the marriage certificate copy. The precise details are as follows:
Marriage by licence at the Register Office, Croydon on 24 January 1918. Albert Edward Minter, 23, bachelor, seaman merchant service of 48 Silcott Street, Brightlingsea, Essex, father Albert Edward Minter, marine engineer. Millicent Alice Saunders, 30, widow of 33 Moffat Road, Thornton Heath, father John Monloy (sic), master baker. Witnesss J Minter, F Foster.
I've tried all sorts of searches to find Millicent prior to marriage, and to try and find out what happened after the marriage and before Albert married Dorothy in 1923. 'Monloy' looks like a transcription error and could be 'Manley'. If so Millicent could have been she whose birth was registered in Q4 1888 at Lewisham (1d/1149). But I've been unable to trace a marriage to 'Saunders', or any death of a 'Saunders' which might have been Millicent's husband.
If Millicent's father was John MANLEY, he could be the man whose death was registered at Croydon in Q1 1891.

1939 Register: at Dene Villa, North Road, Milford Haven U.D., Pembrokeshire, Wales
Minter, Albert E born 14 Jul 1894, married, ship's rigger
Minter, Dorothy A born 3 Sep 1902, married, unpaid domestic duties
--- 1 closed record ---
DAVIES, Charles J born 3 Feb 1898, married, carpenter.
Ernest C Minter and family are on the same page.

Probate Llandaff 6 May 1976 £12,030. 
Minter, Albert Edward (I79)
10796 There's a note at which says "Actually Ruby Monk Parker Carpenter". She married twice. MONK, Ruby Sinclair (I2392)
10797 There's a record at (but no marker picture) for Rebecca H Minter born 28 Apr 1921, died 23 May 1923, buried in Lawson Cemetery, Eden, Rockingham Co, NC. Minter, Rebecca (I5255)
10798 There's a very interesting and sad story at

It was written by Fred Val and tells of his courting in Batavia (now Jakarta, Indonesia) of Jeanne Venema, said to be the daughter of a captain on a large ocean steamer, and his capture and imprisonment by the Japanese in 1942.
Fred later discovered that Jeanne, her mother and sister left Batavia after the liberation. A rumour is said to have reached Jeanne that Fred had died, which shocked her intensely.
Sortly after the war, Fred himself, while still in Indonesia, met and married his wife, also a camp survivor. They had four children and emigrated to Canada in 1957.
Much later, Fred's brother Joop discovered that Jeanne was in very bad health and living in The Hague with her mother. Joop also found out that "Jeanne seemed to have married a sailor, as the story goes, in England. They subsequently moved to New Zealand where she had two daughters, and soon after that her husband abandoned her."
The story reports that Jeanne died on December 1 1986 of emphysema at age 61, presumably in Holland.

A note at the end of Fred's story reads:
"Fred Val, M.Sc., P.Eng., Capt. Signal Corps KNIL (ret.) was a part of Kumpulan Djempol * for a rather short period, but he was a very active and interested member. He also brought his wife Willy to some of our meetings and she especially enjoyed the one after the August ceremony in 2001. Willy passed away early in 2002, and Fred three months later."

*an organisation for Dutch-Canadian survivors of Japanes prison camps. 
VENEMA, Jeanne Aantje (I34)
10799 There's an entry at for 'Oda Malone «i»King«/i» Castellaw', buried in Rose Hill Cemetery, where husband William Castellaw was buried. But no dates of birth and death are given and the "King" is a mystery.

Hattie appeared in the 1900 US Federal Census: in Minter & Gilstrap, Jasper, Georgia (interestingly, the census enumerator was Andrew J Minter), Hattie O MINTER (head, born July 1861, 38 (44 is crossed out), widow, born Georgia, farmer), Biddie P MINTER (daughter, born Feb 1897, 3, born Georgia) and James W MINTER (son, born Dec 1898, 1, born Georgia). 
MALONE, Harriette Oda "Hattie" (I3623)
10800 There's an entry in's collection 'England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892' for:
Stafford Assizes, 24 January 1881 - Sampson William Wheway, 12 months for 'robbery in company with violence'. 
WHEWAY, Sampson William (I3378)

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