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10001 The SSDI gives Pauline's address when she died as Boulder City, Clark County, Nevada. JONES, Pauline Ann (I179)
10002 The St Michael, Thorpe-le-Soken parish register contains the following entry at 25 May 1769. It's unclear what its significance is.
"Frances SMITH of this parish of Thorpe le Soken in the county of Essex, widow, came and made oath before me Samuel Lewis, Curate of the said parish, that she stood Godmother, or Sponsor for, and named, on a certain Sunday in time of Divine Service, Martha, daughter of John and Elizabeth Woods, Husbandman of this said Parish of Thorpe, and now wife of Henry Garnham of the parish of Beaumont Cum Moze in the said County, within a month or thereabouts after the feast of Saint Michael The Archangel, either in the year 1745, or in the year 1746, that is to say about Twenty Four or at the least Twenty Three years ago, next Michaelmas time
As witness, my hand
Samuel Lewis."

The burial in 1814 is almost certainly of Martha nee Woods - it's the only one of a Martha at St Michael, Thorpe-le-Soken at around the right time.
The birth year shown is based on Martha's age of 67 when she was buried, 
WOODS, Martha (I772)
10003 The Suffolk Baptism Index at gives 6 Wingfiled Street as the address when son Edward Alfred was baptised, occupation carpenter.

1901 census: at 6 Nottidge Road, St Helen, Ipswich, Alfred (31, machine erecter), Florence (28, tailoress), Olive (6), Edward (3) and Grace (1). Florence's mother Emma COPPING (widow, 48, born Needham Market) was also there.

1911 census: at 13 Nottidge Road, Ipswich, Suffolk (6 rooms), Alfred Christopher (head, 41, married, thrasher machine erector, worker, born Ipswich, Suffolk), Florence Emily (wife, 38, married 19 years, 6 children, 5 living 1 died, born Needham Market), Olive Ethel (daughter, 16, single, shop assistant, born Ipswich, Suffolk), Edward Alfred (son, 13, office boy, born Ipswich, Suffolk), Evelyn Florence (daughter, 9, school, born Ipswich, Suffolk), Dorothy May (daughter, 7, school, born Ipswich, Suffolk) and Ida Violet (daughter, 5, school, born Ipswich, Suffolk).
Form signed Florence Emily Minter.

1939 Register: at 112 Felixstowe Road, Ipswich C.B., Suffolk
Minter, Alfred C born 19 Feb 1871 [sic - actually 1870], married, carpenter provender mill
Minter, Florence E born 5 May 1873, married, unpaid domestic duties
Minter later IVES, Dorothy M born 16 May 1904 [sic - actually 1903], single, clerk (general)
--- 1 closed record ---

From England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 at
MinterAlfred Christopher of 100 Leopold Road Ipswich died 3 June 1959 Administration Ipswich 10 July to Ida Violet Jackson married woman. Effects £773 2s 1d. 
Minter, Alfred Christopher (I96)
10004 The Suffolk Burial Index gives Alfred's address at the time of his burial aged 22 as Orford Street, Ipswich. Minter, Alfred Thomas (I488)
10005 The Suffolk Burial Index gives William's address at the time he was buried, aged 5 months, as Silent Street. This must be a misprint for Solent Street, where the family lived around that time. Minter, William James (I388)
10006 The Suffolk Burial Index shows Eliza as wife of John of Ranelagh Road, Ipswich. BIRCH, Eliza (I177)
10007 The suggestion that John died in 1701 is taken from the Tait Family Tree at A corresponding burial hasn't been found in the parish register. But it seems likely given that John & Alice had another son Jon in 1703/4. BIBBY, John (I2738)
10008 The surname is later spelled Gates. Penny Minter comments:
It appears that the original spelling was Gaetz but the name for this particular line of Gates was changed prior to 1893. A note in the Gates family tree says that the name change could possibly have been around the time of a 2nd marriage. I do not know if other lines are still spelling it the original way.
GATES, Arnold John (I264)
10009 The surname of this baptism is missing or unreadable but the parents are shown as John & Alice.

Death date is uncertain. Two John BIBBYs were buried in Great Horkesley which could have been of this John, one on 22 April 1766 the other on 11 April 1777. Ages of these two Johns are not shown in the Parish Register. 
BIBBY, John (I2741)
10010 The Times (London, England), Friday, Apr 26, 1940; pg. 9; Issue 48600 carried the engagement announcement - Frederick George, eldest son of Sir Frederick Minter KCVO and Lady Minter of Greystock, Peek Crescent, Wimbledon Common, and of Rivers Hall, Boxted, Colchester, and Kathleen Patricia, only daughter of Mr and Mrs A H Sale of The Orchard, Atherstone, Warwickshire.

Married by special license. Frederick George Minter, 24, bachelor, building contractor of Greystock, Park Crescent, Wimbledon Common, father Frederick Albert W Minter, building contractor. Kathleen Patricia Sale, 25, spinster of The Orchard, Atherston, father Alfred Henry Sale, solicitor. Witnesses Norah K Sale, A H Sale, Greeta C Minter and F A W Minter.

The marriage was reported in The Times (London, England), Friday, Jun 21, 1940; pg. 9; Issue 48648;
"The marriage took place quietly yesterday.... The bride, who was given away by her father, wore a gown of chalk-white slipper satin, with a lonf tulle veil and a head-dress of white tuberoses. She carried an ivory-bound Prayer-book. Miss Diana Manwaring (cousin of the bride) was the only attendant. She wore a dress of white chiffon with a head-dress of dark red carnations matching her bouquet. Mr John Minter was best man to his brother. The reception was held at the Deanery." 
Family F72
10011 The Times (London, England), Friday, Dec 29, 1882; pg. 1; Issue 30703.:
"On Saturday, the 2d Dec., 1882, at the Cathedral, Bombay, by the Rev. F L Sharpin, JOHN SURTEES MINTER, Lieutenant Royal Artillery, to MARTHA HARRIS, fourth daughter of the late WILLIAM EASTLAKE, Esq., of Horrabridge, Devon."

From British India Office Ecclesiastical Returns - Marriages Image at
Married by license. John Surtees Minter, full age, bachelor, lieutenant, Royal Artillery of Bombay, father John Mortenburg (sic) Minter. Martha Harris Eastlake, full age, spinster of Bombay, father William Eastlake. Witnesses George E Evers, Frederick Edgelow, E K E Spence. 
Family F375
10012 The Times (London, England), Friday, Nov 16, 1917; pg. 1; Issue 41637.:
On the 15th Nov., at St Mary's Church, Wimbledon, by the Rev. Allen Bell, SURGEON A T PATTERSON, RN, to DOROTHY, daughter of Mr and Mrs F G Minter, Greystock, Wimbledon Common. 
Family F42
10013 The Times (London, England), Monday, Jan 24, 1916; pg. 13; Issue 41071. includes in a list of wounded soldiers:
"R. W. KENT Regt., 6th BN .... Minter, 6402 L-Cpl B.S.D.; ..."
It seems likely that this refers to Bertie Sidney Douglas Minter.

1939 Register: at 97 Mill Road, Deal M.B., Kent
Minter, Elsie M born 25 Dec 1899, married, shopkeeper fruiterer
Minter, Victor H born 9 Nov 1927, single, at school
JARMAN, Ena M H born 22 Dec 1908, married, unpaid domestic duties
--- 1 closed record --- 
Minter, Bertie Sidney Douglas (I162)
10014 The Times (London, England), Saturday, Sep 29, 1883; pg. 1; Issue 30938.:
"On the 27th Sept., at Trinity Congregational Church, Croydon, by the Rev. Herbert Arnold, JOHN JAMES MACDONALD, Surrey Lodge, Woodside, S.E., to ELIZABETH LOUISA MINTER (LOUIE), niece and adopted daughter of James Chambers, of The Sycamores, Woodside-green, S.E." 
Family F142
10015 The Times marriage announcement reads:
"On the 25 inst. [of March 1854], at St Michael's, Burleigh-street, Strand, by the Rev. A G Edouart, MA, Edwin, eldest son of George Minter, of Frith-street, Soho-square, to Sarah Margaret, only daughter of William Knight, of 357, Strand."

According to the marriage register the couple married at St Michael's District Church, St Martin in the Fields.
Married by licence. Edwin Minter, 21, bachelor, upholsterer of Strand, father George Minter, upholsterer. Sarah Margaret Knight, 18, spinster of Strand, father William Knight, fishmonger. Both signed full names. Witnesses William Knight, Elizabeth Toleman both signed. 
Family F247
10016 The Times of 29 Jan 2008 reported that Frances Joyce Minter, of Cranbrook, Kent, left estate valued at £1,770,811 net. (ProQuest UK Newsstand, Sep 2012).
JONES, Frances Joyce (I1783)
10017 The tombstone at Chislet says 1799 but Cliff Minter has confirmed that the burial register says 1798 (November 2009). Minter, William (I1361)
10018 The tombstone bears two names. On the left Joe Thomas Apr 16 1916 - Jul 24 2000 Brother, on the right Kathryn Jan 28 1919 - Feb 12 2007 Sister. Minter, Mary Kathryn (I1662)
10019 The transcript below of William's Will was provided by Darren Beddingfield, March 2014. Darren comments:
"I recently uncovered a couple of siblings of Mary Johnson - wife of the Boxted patriarch Edward Minter (1765-1854), Ann and Susan [this should read Sarah] and their respective marriages to Thomas Beardwell and Robert Page located in the Boxted register confirmed through the will of none other that Mary's father William Johnson, proved not in Essex where it may be expected to but at London in [March] 1816. The will confirms the relationship of all Edward Minter's children including that of his daughter Mary to James Bruce. William, a farmer, also left land and money to his Minter descendants. He was buried 'of Langham' in Boxted on 19 December 1815 aged 77."

The Will:
In the name of God amen I, William Johnson of Boxted in Essex, farmer, hereby revoking all former wills whatsoever by me at any make this my last will in manner following and do appoint my son in law Thomas Beardwell and my grandson Robert Page executors and I give them twenty pounds apiece £20 apiece for their trouble in the execution of this my will and I give and devise unto my son in law Edward Minter the husband of my daughter Mary and his heirs all that freehold messuage wherein i now now dwell with the freehold barns, stables and outhouses and freehold lands, meadows and pastures...situated in Boxted aforesaid now in any occupation of my assigns and which I purchased of Robert Whiley - chargeable with the payment of £100 to my grandchild Mary the wife of James Bruce and with the payment of £100 to my granddaughter Sarah the wife of John Aymer (sic) to be paid to them respectively at the end of one year (after) my decease.
Next I give and devise unto my grandson Robert Page and his heirs all those several pieces of copyhold land called Pennels otherwise situated in Boxted aforesaid containing by estimation 14 acres more or less now in my occupation or of my assigns and which I have only surrendered to the use of my will chargeable with the sum of £100 to my grandson John Minter to be paid to him one year after my decease.
Next I give and deivise unto William Minter the eldest son of my aforesaid daughter Mary Minter and his heirs all that copyhold tenement or messuage called Ives or otherwise with the buildings and copyhold land...containing by estimation 3 acres more or less situated in Boxted aforesaid now in my occupation or that of my tenants and which i have only surrendered to my will and my will is that my said daughter Mary Minter use and occupy the said tenement and land called Ives until my said grandson William Minter attains the age of 21.
I give and devise unto my grandson Thomas Beardwell and his heirs all those freehold lands...situated in Boxted containing by estimation 9 acres more or less in my own occupation or of my tenants of which I lately purchased of (blank) Lambe esquire chargeable with the sum of £100 to my granddaughter Hannah Minter and like sum of £100 to my granddaughter Susannah Minter to be paid to them respectively (at) the age of 21 years.
I give unto my wife Sarah the sum of £120 to be paid to her one month after my decease....I give to my grandson Thomas Minter the sum of £100 to be paid at his attainment of the age of 21 years and without leaving issue of their bodies
I direct my said son in law Thomas Beardwell and my grandson Robert Page as soon as soon as conveniently after my decease to dispose of singularly all my goods, chattels, household goods, plate, linen and woollens and the monies arising from the sale thereof and (including) all my ready money...and all other personal estate after payment of my just debts legacies aforesaid, funeral and testimonial expenses I give and bequeath unto my nine grandchildren, the said Mary wife of James Bruce, Sarah the wife of the said John Aylmer, Hannah, Susannah, Thomas and Elizabeth Minter, Thomas Beardwell and Robert Page...equally to be divided amongst them. But in case any of my said grandchildren of my daughter Mary minter should happen to die under the age of 21 years lawfully...I bequeath unto the survivors of the said grandchildren of my daughter Mary Minter to be equally divided amongst them.
In witness William Johnson have set my hand and set my seal this 25«sup»th«/sup» day of March in this year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and fourteen.

JOHNSON, William (I2953)
10020 The transcripts of the Folkestone Parish Registers give Jacob's second name as Boxer.

In 1803 listed as son of Richard of Saffron Row, aged 16.
No trace of marriage to Mary.

1841 census: in North Street, Folkestone, Mary (43), Mary (11) and Pleasant (8)

1851 census: at North Street, Folkestone, Jacob (59, labourer, SE Railway), Mary (54), Mary (20, dressmaker), Pleasant (18), Henry ABBOTT (brother in law, 35, porter, SE & CSRC) and Mary COOK (78, widow, sister, pauper, formerly nurse).

1861 census: at Boyle Street, St Mary Eanswythe, Folkestone, Jacob (75, porter), Mary (74), Pleasant (26, dressmaker) and Mary COOK (92, widow, mother in law [!, actually sister].

Note: while I'm sure this is the same couple, there is a big discrepancy in the ages of both Jacob and Mary and of Mary COOK. The 1861 ages are probably nearer the truth.

Jacob's death was reported in a local newspaper on 24 Jan 1871, giving age as 86, of Harvey Road. 
Minter, Jacob Boxer (I268)
10021 The tree "jtw" at, from which I've taken a lot of information, has 6 children from the marriage of William and Mary BAB, including three sons named John.

The first John Worley is said to have been baptised at St Giles, Chalfont St Giles on 9 October 1757, as 'John son of William & Mary WORLEY'. He is said to have died in 1759 but I think this date was selected only because:
the second John Worley is said to have been baptised at Chalfont St Giles on 16 December 1759, again as 'John son of William & Mary WORLEY'. This John Worley is the one whose story has been developed in the "jtw" tree.
the third John Worley is said to have been baptised at St Giles, Chalfont St Giles on 20 January 1765, yet again as 'John son of William & Mary WORLEY'. No further details about this John Worley are given.

I'm inclined to believe that the first John Worley was William and Mary's son and that he died in infancy, to be replaced by the second John Worley. However, I don't know what to think about the third John Worley, except that it seems pretty unlikely that he was William and Mary's son, unless of course the second John Worley also died as a young child. It's also possible that another William and Mary Worley couple was living in Chalfont St Giles and that they were the parents of one or other of the 2nd and 3rd John Worleys; there's no evidence of this though.
Whatever the truth of all this, I am omitting the third John Worley altogether, pending someone discovering the true picture.

January 2017: the owner of the "jtw" tree, Jen Blyth has commented as follows:
"Yes the William Worley and Mary Bab children are odd. I vaguely recall looking for another William and Mary living at the same time. I seem to remember having problems with the Jonathan and John Worleys. It was standard practice that when a child died the next child born of the same sex was given the same name. So the first John son of William and Mary would have died before the 2nd was born in 1759 (I've found it very common not to have a burial record for a previous sibling of the same name). Sometimes with children & wives there aren't burial records. The records don't always give details for deaths so I've had to look at who would be the most suitable candidate for a particular burial record so I could have allocated John 1's burial to some other John who died around the same time. Any details that were on the BMD records I've added to my Ancestry tree. The third John had me stumped. I've come across families in the 1400 & 1500s who had two surviving children in the family with the same name (it was common in prominent families for a time). Sometimes it was when there was a significant age gap between siblings (I wouldn't say 6 years is significant though), sometimes when there was a remarriage and half siblings were given the same name. In this case it could be that William remarried (to another Mary) and had another son named John with the new wife. It could be that the baby wasn't expected to live and was named after their older sibling." 
WORLEY, William (of Jordans) (I264)
10022 The U.S. Federal Census Mortality Schedules, 1850-1885 notes the following details:
Amos Minter, 22, born Texas, father born Virginia, mother South Carolina, a fireman, drowned in June 1879, resident in Marion County for 12 years. 
Minter, Amos L (I7960)
10023 The Wakefield Archives, Registry of Deeds has an entry for John Gordon Minter at Huddersfield, Yorkshire in 1956 (found by John J. Minter in April 2006).

Ran a building company , J G Minters until retiring in 1983.

(John) Gordon and his second wife Enid produced 'Old Huddersfield' in 5 volumes between 1993 and 2002. The Huddersfield Examiner of 15 September 2010 carried the following:
"A WEALTH of vital information for local historians has been made freely available on a local history website.
Old Huddersfield by the late Gordon Minter and his wife Enid, which appeared in five printed volumes from 1993 to 2002.
The original booklets offered driving and walking tours through Huddersfield and the surrounding district, but can now be searched by any keyword.
Mrs Minter , of Lascelles Hall, said: "I'm delighted that our books have now been made available to all.
"I still get very emotional when I remember the fun Gordon and I had researching them - we were like children playing out!" She has supported re-publication with a generous donation and the web page is dedicated to her late husband. Anyone wanting to search the books should visit and follow the links.
Copyright MGN Ltd. Sep 15, 2010" 
Minter, John Gordon (I2115)
10024 The Walmer parish register between 1754 and 1812 is badly damaged at the edges but the following has been extracted:
Married by banns. John Minter, batchelor and Sarah Maxted spinster both of this parish. Both signed. Witnesses .............Maxted and Susanna Maxted both signed. 
Family F378
10025 The website at includes a list of burials in St Mary the Virgin, Parham, Suffolk. One of the entries is:

Minter, Hilda Annie, b 18 May 1896 d 12 Mar 1950, nee Frost

Although the birth date is a year out, the entry clearly relates to this Hilda Annie, but I had her maiden name as SELLER. I now think that Hilda first married in Q3 1918, to Alfred J SELLER, and that he probably died, aged 28, In Q1 1920, and have changed Hilda's record accordingly. 
FROST, Hilda Annie (I577)
10026 Thee SSDI gives James' last known address as 92692 Mission Viejo, Orange, California. ANDERSON, James Alexander (I2523)
10027 There appears no doubt that Lewis married Peggy Jean Seivers in 1953 but his obituary gives his wife's name as Ann Huff Minter. I've assumed that Ann was Lewis's second wife but haven't found what happened to his first wife.

The obituary is copied from It was originally published on 9 November 2006:

Lewis Henry Minter, 73, of Lexington, went to meet his Lord and Savior Wednesday, Nov. 8, 2006, at Forsyth Medical Center in Winston-Salem.

The funeral will be at 2 p.m. Friday at Hayworth-Miller Silas Creek Chapel by Pastors Bud McCants and Simon Osunlana. Burial will follow in Parklawn Memorial Park.

Mr. Minter was born Aug. 18, 1933, in Forsyth County to Cabel C. and Mary Elizabeth Willard Minter. He served in the U.S. Army during the Korean Conflict. He was preceded in death by his parents; a son, David Lewis Minter; a son-in-law, David Wilson; and a brother-in-law, Bill Minish.

Surviving are his wife of the home, Ann Huff Minter; two daughters, Lou Ann Wilson of Clemmons and Melinda Hughes of Lexington; five sisters, Elizabeth Marshall and her husband, James, Martha Minish, and Becky Wassum and her husband, Eddie, all of Lexington, Mary M. Wilson and her husband, Gary, of Kernersville, and Ellen Hines and her husband, Terry, of Winston-Salem; two brothers, Charles D. Minter and his wife, Bonnie, and William C. Minter and his wife, Zella, all of Lexington; two grandchildren, Jonathan Miller and Traci Hughes; one stepson, Reid Stancil and his wife, Pam, of Kernersville; one stepgrandson; two stepgreat-granddaughters; and 17 nieces and nephews.

The family will receive friends from noon to 2 p.m. Friday at the funeral home.

Memorials can be made to Teen Challenge of N.C., 604 Rock Springs Road, Harmony, NC 28634.
Minter, Lewis Henry (I1127)
10028 There appears to be some doubt as to whether this was actually Henry Smith. SMITH, Nancy (I1640)
10029 There are many references to Philip Gidley King on the World Wide Web including a short biography at KING, Philip Gidley (I1063)
10030 There are several records for Edward in the UK, Railway Employment Records, 1833-1963 collection at for the Southern Division of the London and North Western Railway. They indicate that Edward was appointed on 21 June 1853 as a statistical apprentice - he seems to have started on £25 pa..
Further records in the same collection:
Staff in the Audit Department at Euston includes E Minter, apprentice, appointed 21 June 1853, salary £30 pa, rising to £40 pa until on 1 May 1856 he was nominated for transfer to Manager's Dept.
Staff in the Audit Department at Euston includes E Minter, apprentice, appointed 21 June 1853, salary £60 pa in 1858, rising to £80 pa in 1861.
Staff in the Secretary's Office at Euston includes E Minter Jr., appointed 21 June 1853, salary £90 pa from 1.4.1862, £100 pa from 1.1.1863, £110 pa from 1.1.1869, £120 pa from 1.1.1870. He was dismissed on 30 April 1873 with 3 months salary instead of notice.

1871 census: at 36 Charrington Street, St Pancras, London, Edward (32, railway clerk) and Harriet (25). 
Minter, Edward (I100)
10031 There are several unresolved qustions abour Harriett and Ephraim Stow(e).

1. The birth certificate for their daughter Elizabeth Eliza (born 11.1.1848) shows mother's name as Harriett Stowe, formerly Brooker. We know that in 1841, Harriett was living with Robert and Elizabeth (Brooker). They married in 1832, a date after Harriett's birth date of about 1830, so it's possible that Harriett kept her mother's surname rather than adopting that of her mother's husband (who was probably (but not definitely - we don't have a birth certificate) Harriett's father.

2. No record has been found of Harriett actually marrying Ephraim Stow, either as Harriett Minter or Harriett Brooker. Ther's no doubt they were a couple however - the 1861 census shows they had 5 children in addition to Elizabeth Eliza.

3. It's a mystery why Harriett's daughter was living with her grandparents Robert & Elizabeth in 1861. It's also a mystery where she was in 1851 - not with either her parents or her grandparents. 
Family F186
10032 There are two BMD index death entries with the same date and reference but different birth dates: 31 Dec 1896 and 24 Oct 1897. The 1939 Register gave a birth date of 31 Dec 1897! BANNISTER, Olive Maud (I169)
10033 There are two entries in the North Carolina Birth Index for 1923. The first is for "Webb Minter", father Paul Minter of Ruffin. On the next but one line is an entry for just "Minter", father Paul Minter of Ruffin. These entries probably relate to this William Minter.

See Notes for Paul: William appears to have become known as 'Webb Minter'. 
Minter, Webb (I544)
10034 There are two entries in the NSW Marriage Index which may refer to Sylvia:
910/1939 Doreen Sylvia Minter + Arthur Hunter at Chatswood RD
940/1939 Doreen Sylvia Minter + Arthur Hunter at Wallsend RD 
Minter, Doreen Sylvia (I3970)
10035 There are two Harry Norman Killick birth registrations in the index, both in Q3 1851 at Sevenoaks, one with ref 5/482, the other 5/486.

1881 census: Harry N KILLICK (29, retired farmer, born Edenbridge, Kent) was a visitor at "Highfields", West Street, East Grinstead, Sussex, home of George Searle HEAD, his wife & family.
Harry's wife and daughter Maud were counted in Chelsea with their father/grandfather. His son, Roper KILLICK was with his grandmother Ann ROPER (82) in Greenstreet, Lynsted, Kent.

1891 census: Harry not found. His wife and daughter were still in Chelsea with their father/grandfather. Son Roper, now 18, born Chelsea (sic) was at 2 Stafford Street, Mayfair, London with James SMITH, his wife and 2 daughters. Roper is recorded as an employee, a draper's assistant.

1901 census: Harry not found. His wife (as Flora E KILLICK, 55, born Blackfriars, London) was with her son Roper KILLICK (cf) and family at The Broadway, Newbury, Berkshire.
When daughter Maud married on 30 March 1901 she named her father as Harry Norman KILLICK, farmer, perhapssuggesting he was alive.

1911 census: Harry not found. His wife (as Elizabeth Flora KILLICK, 66, married 38 years, 2 children both living, born Blackfriars, London) was with Roper KILLICK (cf) and family at "Worle House", Beachfield Avenue, Newquay, Cornwall.

Harry Norman KILLICK is a mystery! His wife lived until she was 86 but I can't find his death or indeed anything about him after the 1881 census. See below...

May 2017: email correspondence with Raymond Killick, in which he writes:
"Harry Norman Killick, was my great grandfather. My late father Henry Cecil Killick b 20.12.1919 d.30.09.2013 aged 94. His father Cecil Eden (abbreviated from Edenbridge which has been passed down to my brother Robert Henry Eden Killick and to my son Duane Eden Killick) Cecil Eden Killick was a son of Harry Norman Killick.
Harry Norman Killick emigrated to New Zealand in June 1889. He married Caroline Bertha Browne b 1858 m 1886 NZ d 22.11.1902 I am not sure if his wife was Bertha Browne or Brown. My father once told me that a man came asking for his father (Cecil). My father asked who was that man? My grandfather replied, you wouldn't want to know him, he was a bastard. By what I have found out from another source in England, it appears Harry Norman may have married again without divorcing Flora Elizabeth. So my grandfather may have had step siblings he never knew about in England. It's all quite a puzzle. My Killick ancestors are interred inside a church in Edenbridge, I visited in 1971."
This answers some of the questions concering Harry after the 1881 England census, but raises two others:
- if Harry Noman emigrated in June 1889, how did he manage to marry in New Zealand in 1886 has an image of an index to passport applications which includes an entry for 16 August 1888 for H N Killick - almost certainly this Harry Norman I should think.
- the index record in NZ MDM online for Harry Norman Killick's marriage in 1886 gives his bride's name as Caroline Bertha Campbell. There's a death index record of 1903 for Caroline Barker Killick. So was she Brown(e) or Campbell (or both, through multiple marriages) and Bertha or Barker?

Ancestry's England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995 has a record for the death of Harry Norman Killick on 23 May 1947 in Richmond Surrey but the corresponding BMD index record shows his age at death as 49 - so this was probably the Harry Norman Killick whose birth was registered in Kensington in Q3 1896. 
KILLICK, Harry Norman (I5320)
10036 There are two IGI entries for Sarah, one for her baptism at Rackheath on 14 May 1820, the other for her marriage, which suggests she was born in 1821.
It is thought that Sarah died between 1852 and 1854 - in 1861 Henry RAYNER was living with wife Martha (prev. HOWARD) whom he married in Q4 1854 (St Faith 4b/271). They had living with them 5 RAYNER children ranging from 15 down to 2 (the last must have been Martha's child), two HOWARD children and Henry M. RAYNER (17). The latter must have been Sarah's son by Henry MINTER, born on 3 March 1844 before Sarah and Henry married. At a guess, the 'M' stood for 'Minter'. The 1861 census says that Henry was born in Horsham St Faiths - the birth certificate says Rackheath. 
Minter, Sarah (I142)
10037 There are uncertainties in this family's history. What appears here is my best estimation of the story and is based on the following.

1. When the family first appeared here its head was Mary Ann Minter, who appeared in the 1861 census with three children, Charlotte, Emily and William. Mary Ann's marital status wasn't shown and at that point there was little indication of the identity of her husband. The best clues are that when daughters Emily married in 1873 and Caroline in 1878 they gave their father's name as William Minter, labourer (1873) and coal heaver (1878) (they didn't indicate whether their father was alive or not).

2. More recently (August 2014) further items of information have come to light which show pretty conclusively that Mary Ann's husband was William Minter and that Mary Ann's maiden name was NORTON:
- the 1841 birth certificate for Caroline Minter, father William Minter, labourer, mother Mary Minter formerly Norton.
- the 1856 birth certificate for Emily Minter, father William Minter, labourer, mother Mary Minter formerly Norton.
- an 1851 census entry, recorded as HUNTER, which includes William (37) and Mary (25) and daughters Caroline (9) and Mary (4), living at 25 Lawrence Street, Chelsea.
- an 1841 census entry for William Minter, Charlotte NORTON and her children George (18), Caroline (16) and Mary (15), all living at the same address in Lewers Building, Chelsea. Lewers Building appears to have been in Lawrence Street. This Mary Norton is almost certainly she who became William Minter's wife. The only thing missing is a marriage certificate or entry in the BMD index, suggesting that William and Mary might not actually have married.

There remain some unanswered questions:
- who were William's parents? There's a case to be made for William being the son of Henry and Elizabeth Minter, as well as being the brother of Matthew Minter, currently the 'head' of the Chelsea group. The following baptisms appear in the baptismal register of St Luke's, Chelsea:
- 4 Jan 1818, born 7 Oct 1817, Henry William son of Henry & Elizabeth, Kingshott Brompton, sailor. This is a mystifying entry - 'Kingshott Brompton' appears to be an address but I can find no such place. On the other hand. Kingshott was the maiden name of the Elizabeth who married Henry Minter in St Martin in the Fields on 13 Feb 1817 - see the Thanet group.
- 2 Nov 1828, born 11 Apr 1823, Matthew son of Henry & Elizabeth, Cook's Ground, chaff cutter.
- 2 Nov 1828, born 11 Aug 1827, Mary daughter of Henry & Elizabeth, Cook's Ground, chaff cutter.
- 30 Jan 1831, born 1 Jan 1831, John son of Henry & Elizabeth, Cook's Ground, chaff cutter.
- 28 Mar 1832, born 10 Mar 1832, John son of Henry & Elizabeth, Cook's Ground, chaff cutter.

- William and Mary were probably the parents of the following children but birth certificates are needed to verify this:
- Jane, registered in the same quarter and with the same reg. number as Caroline, and therefore probably a twin; she died aged 8 in Q4 1849
- William George, registered Q2 1844, died aged 5 in Q4 1849. William and Jane were definitely siblings and were buried together on 27 December 1849
- Sidney, registered Q3 1851, not found subsequently.

- there's no sign of William Minter's death, which probably occurred between 1865 and 1871 (when Mary was described as a widow in that year's census).

Mary Ann first appears (as Mary) in the 1861 census at 18 Lombard Street, Chelsea. Her position in the household is not stated; marital status appears to be 'Mar' (married). Aged 38, charwoman, born Fulham. With Mary were 2 daughters and a son, all born Chelsea, Charlotte (19) [in the light of later censuses, this age looks wrong], Emily (5) and William (2).

In 1871 Mary, now stated to be a widow aged 43, charwoman, born W Kensington, lived at 85 Ifield Road, Kensington. The comment 'ill health' could relate to Mary but is written on the same line as her daughter Charlotte, whose age was given as 18. Two other daughters were also present, Emily (15) and 'Marg' (5). No sign of William - he might have died in Q3 1864.

In 1881 Mary was living at 25 Portman Road, Chelsea. She was a widow, aged 54, a charwoman. Living with her were her daughter Charlotte OWEN (26, married) and her granddaughter Florence MINTER (9), presumably Charlotte's illegitimate daughter. Florence is noted as being deaf & dumb. 
Minter, William (I9)
10038 There has been confusion over Samuel Minter. Until now (April 2016), John & Elizabeth were thought to have had two sons named Samuel:
- the first, to have been baptised at Needham on 25 Jun 1739 and buried at Needham on 8 February 1746/47.
- the second, to have been baptised ay Needham on 8 April 1749 and buried at St Peter, Needham on 8 April 1750.

Dick Moore has examined the Needham Parish Register and found that "the baptism marriage and burial records are all intermixed and some upside down". Dick concludes that there ever was only one Samuel baptised 25 June1739 and buried 8 February 1750/51. I have adopted this conclusion. 
Minter, Samuel (I816)
10039 There has been some uncertainty about Elizabeth's story. At one time it was thought that she was baptised and buried on the same day, 2 December 1770. Further investigation resulted in the following comments in correspondence with Graham Minter.
1. Graham Minter to me, 20 August 2012:
I forgot to cover Elizabeth Minter in my comments. You may recall that you had her as baptised and buried in Eyke on the same day, 2-12-1770. That in itself is unlikely, but then you found a marriage of an Elizabeth Minter in Eyke on 9 July 1795. I've checked the records and there is indeed a burial of Elizabeth on 2-12-1770 and she is the daughter of John and Sarah. However, there is no baptism record on that date and I assume that someone read the burial record and mistook it for a baptism one. I have not found a baptism record for Elizabeth from an earlier date. I did not search for one this time, but have looked for (and found) children of John and Sarah in both the Eyke and the Campsea Ash records in the past, but no Elizabeth. As for the Elizabeth who married in 1795, she could be unrelated, or John and Sarah could have had another daughter, whom they also named Elizabeth, sometime after 1770. In the absence of any evidence of a link, I am inclined to the former as John and Sarah were getting on by that stage, I have found no record of a baptism record and there is no evidence of them moving away from Eyke at that time.
2. Me to Graham Minter, 25 September 2012:
I went to the library today to have another look at Stella [Herbert]'s fiche covering 1770 baptisms and burials. I totally agree with you: there is an entry for the «u»burial«/u» of Elizabeth, daughter of John and Sarah Minter on 2 December 1770. There is no entry for the baptism of Elizabeth the same day, or indeed in the few years before 1770. My feeling is that the minister made a mistake and wrote 'buried' instead of 'baptised'. It wouldn't have been difficult to make this mistake - this was a mixed register and the entry before Elizabeth's is for a burial. I also think that the 1795 marriage of Elizabeth Minter and William Cook, which was witnessed by William and Matthew Minter, was very likely of the Elizabeth baptised on 2 December 1770 (ie John & Sarah's daughter). As you say, it seems unlikely, because of Sarah's age, that John and Sarah had a second daughter called Elizabeth.
Would you be agreeable to adopting 2 Dec 1770 as Elizabeth's baptismal date and 9 Jul 1795 as her marriage (to William Cook) date?

The upshot of the above is that we have agreed, pending further investigation, to adopt the suggestion in the final paragraph above. 
Minter, Elizabeth (I26)
10040 There is a Boyd's Marriage Index entry for Edward Minter marrying Mary Johnson at Boxted in 1787.

As of December 2003, it is assumed that Edward Minter moved to Boxted at some point, perhaps when he married Mary Johnson, and is the ancestor of the 'Boxted Minters'. Note however that even without this probable link, the two groups eventually became linked when Blanche Minter of Boxted married Charles Ernest Minter of Great Horkesley in 1925.

The 1830 Essex Poll Book, Lexden and Witham, has an entry for Edward Minter, of Boxted, owner/occupier of house and land in Boxted. (Source, UK, Poll Books and Electoral Registers, 1538-1893).

August 2011: Found in the National Archives:
Copy order of Colchester petty sessions for Edward Minter farmer to pay 9s. 6d. weekly for the upkeep of his daughter Hannah Taylor and 4 children (31 March) [see Q/SBb 509/65] Boxted.

Darren Bedingfield has kindly sent me the following transcripts relative to Edward Minter's dispute over support of his daughter Hannah:

«b»Edward Minter v Hannah Taylor

1. Court Order of 31 March 1832
«/b»County of Essex
The order of Sir George Henry Smyth, Baronet and The Reverend William Milton Thurlock, two of His Majestys Justices of the Peace acting in and for the said County one whereof is the quorum made at a Petty Sessions held at Colchester Castle in the said County the thirty first day of March in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty two upon an application to us the Justices aforesaid at the said Petty Sessions by the Churchwardens and Overseers of the poor of the parish of Boxtead in the county of Essex to have an order made on Edward Minter of Boxtead aforesaid, Farmer, for him to maintain his daughter Hannah Taylor, widow, and her four children, namely James, Robert, William, and John Taylor and who is poor and unable to work so as to maintain and support herself and her said four children and chargeable to the said parish of Boxtead he the said Edward Minter being a person of sufficient ability to maintain and provide for his daughter and said four children. And the said Edward Minter having been summoned to appear before us the Justices aforesaid at the Petty Sessions held at Colchester Castle on the 3«sup»rd«/sup» day of March now instant to the end and in order that we might examine the cause and circumstances of the Premises but when and where he the said Edward Minter did not shew any sufficient cause why such order should not be made and we having heard the parties so complaining and duly considered the circumstances of the said complaints as well as the want of any adequate defence of the part of the said Edward Minter do adjudge and determine that the said Hannah Taylor is poor and unable to work so as to maintain and support herself and her said four children and is actually chargeable to the said parish of Boxtead. And we do further adjudge that the said Edward Minter is a person of sufficient ability to maintain and provide for his said daughter and her said four children. We therefore do Order that the said Edward Minter shall and do forthwith upon notice of this our order pay or cause to be paid to the Churchwardens and Overseers of the poor of the said parish of Boxtead for the time being or to some or one of them weekly and every week from this present time the sum of nine shillings and six pence for and toward the sustentation relief maintenance and support of the said Hannah taylor and her said four children for and during so long time as the said Hannah Taylor and her said four children shall be chargeable to the said parish of Boxtead or until the said Edward Minter shall be locally directed to the contrary. Given under our hands and seals at Colchester Castle aforeasaid the day and year first above written.
G.H. Smyth
W.M. Thurlock
2. Newspaper reports
«/b» 1. Essex Standard 24 March 1832 p3
A man of the name of Minter, of the parish of Boxted, in Essex, who summoned to show cause why he suffered his daughter and her family to become chargeable to the parish. It had been arranged on a former hearing, that a party should be mutually appointed to visit Mr Minter's farm and property, and report upon its value: and that report was now read, showing that the farm extended to 18 acres, worth £30 a year rent; and the value of the premises & co was at least £900. This report, however, was not permitted to be put in as evidence, and the case occasioned a great deal of discussion - Mr Smithies contending that before the magistrates could make any order on Minter, it was incumbent on them to prove, that after Minter had duly provided for the maintenance of his own family and establishment, there was an overplus to support the family of another. The chairman drew a strong parallel between the case of Minter, worth £900 and that of a man possessed of a donkey, the latter of whom could not be relieved by the parish, while he had the donkey or anything else that he could call his own. If the premise of Mr Smithies was correct, then were the decisions of the bench ... in error for the last twenty years? The chairman added that it was a perversion - a shameful perversion - of the poor laws, to maintain that a man possessed of so much property, or any property, could come upon the parish for relief. Mr Smithies in reply, stated that this was not the case of a man refusing to maintain his own family but the family of another, for the support of whom special provisions had been made - it was quite a different branch of the law: besides which, it was impossible for the parish to show that Minter derived a greater income from the produce of his farm than was barely sufficient for the maintenance of his own establishment. In short, the bench could not make any order on Minter. Several parishioners who were present stated that the expense already incurred by this family amounted to £60 and a current allowance was paid out of the poor's rate of 9s a week. They were quite happy to meet Minter half way in the support of his daughter and four grandchildren, but they thought that for a man possessed of so much property, it was too much to take away from the portion so allotted for the poor by law. The bench unanimously directed an order for 9s 9d a week to be made on Minter for the maintenance of his daughter and her family, and if the legality of their decisions were doubted, an appeal lay at the sessions.
2. Essex Standard 10 Nov 1832 p2
Mr Smithies and Mr Serjeant were then heard on the merits of the case between the parishioners of Boxted and Minter. It will be recollected that this long standing difference consisted in the refusal of Minter to sustain his grandchildren, who became a serious burden upon the parish; and that upon an appeal, the court of Chelmsford decided it had no jurisdiction. It was agreed this day, that the amount of allowance to be in future paid by Minter should be left to the arbitration of two well qualified persons, to be appointed by the parties-an arrangement which came from Mr Smithies, and seemed to give great satisfaction.
3. Chelmsford Chronicle, 1 February 1833
At the castle, on Saturday night, the case of Minter, of Boxted, was disposed of. Minter has considerable property, and refused to repay a sum of between £60 and £70, expended by the parish for the maintenance of one of his family. Persons had been appointed to value Minter's property, and decide upon what weekly allowance he ought to pay. They this day reported that in addition to 1s a week, formerly paid by Minter, he ought to pay 4s more. At last it was agreed that he should in future pay 5s a week, but that all retrospective claims should be given up. It was stated that Minter has 42 children and grandchildren. His property was valued at about £800.

1841 census: in Boxted, Edward (75, farmer) and Mary (75).

1851 census: Edward, 86 a widower, was a farmer of 18 acres employing one man, in Boxted. He lived alone apart from a general servant, Elizabeth SEBBORN, 27, born Ardleigh, Essex. The next entry on the census page is for John Minter, 56, Edward's son.

Kelly's Post Office Directory Home Counties 1852, lists E Minter, farmer, Boxted, Colchester.

Buried aged 88. Daren Bedingfield kindly supplied a transcription of Edward's Will:
This is the will of Edward Minter this day proved before me on the oaths of Thomas Whitaker and Isaac Page the executors who were sworn duly to administer and that the goods chattels of the deceased are under the value of two hundred pounds, before me the 21st January 1854
Samuel Carr
Testator died at Boxted, Essex 26th December 1853
This is the last will and testament of me Edward Minter of Boxted in the county of Essex, farmer. First I nominate, constitute and appoint Thomas Whitaker of Boxted, aforesaid, farmer and Isaac Page of West Bergholt in the said county, farmer, executors of this my will.
I give and devise unto my son John Minter all that allotment or parcel of land containing two acres and a half more or less situated in Boxted and formerly parcel of Boxted Heath and now in my own occupation. To hold to my said son John Minter his heirs and assigns for ever. Also I give and devise unto the said Thomas Whitaker and Isaac Page and their heirs all and every the freehold messuages lands tenements and hereditaments of which I shall die seized or entitle to upon trust that they or the survivors of them his heirs, executors and administrators that they do and shall as soon as conveniently may be after my decease and at such time or times as they in their discretion shall deem most desirable absolutely sell and dispose of the same either together or in parcels and by public auction or private contract for the best price that can reasonably be obtained for the same with full liberty to buy in the said lands and hereditaments at any public sale or to cancel any contract and to resell the lot or lots without being liable for any deficiency arising thereby also I direct the said Thomas Whitaker and Isaac Page or the survivor of them, his heirs executors or administrations in like manner to sell and dispose of all and every the copyright or customary lands tenements and hereditiments of which I shall be seized or entitled to and I declare that the receipt or receipts of the said Thomas Whitaker and Isaac Page or the survivors of them, his heirs, executors or administrators shall be a good and sufficient discharge or a good and sufficient discharges to the purchaser or purchasers of my said freehold and copyright lands, tenements and hereditiments who shall not after their payment of their respective purchase monies and taking such receipt or receipts or obliged to see the application thereof nor be answerable to the misapplication or non application of the same or any part thereof. Also I direct my said executors at such time as they think most desirable to sell and dispose of all my household furniture, farming live and dead stock, goods, chattels and effects and as to the monies arising from the sales of my aforesaid real and personal estate, and from all the rest of the residue of my personal estate whatsoever and wheresoever after payment thereout of my just debts, funeral and testamentary expenses I dispose thereof as follows:
- I give and bequeath to my son William Minter the sum of ten pounds and to his daughter Maria Minter the sum of thirty pounds.
- I give and bequeath to my said son John Minter the sum of nineteen pounds and nineteen shillings.
- I give and bequeath unto each of the four children of my late daughter Susan Webb living at my decease the sum of ten pounds.
- I give and bequeath unto my daughter in law formerly the wife and afterwards the widow of my son Thomas Minter the sum of ten pounds. And I give and bequeath unto each of the four children of my said son Thomas Minter who shall be living at my decease ten pounds all which legacies I direct shall be paid as soon as conveniently after my decease.
And as to the residue of the said monies I direct the same shall be divided into four equal parts and be disposed of as follows namely -
- To my daughter Sarah Elmer I give and bequeath one fourth part for her own use and benefit absolutely
- To my daughter Elizabeth Seaborn I give and bequeath another fourth part thereof for her own use and benefit absolutely.
- To my daughter Mary White I give and bequeath another fourth part thereof for her own use and benefit absolutely.
And as to the remaining fourth part or share I direct my said executors to place the same out of interest in their names upon government on good security and to pay the interest and dividends into the proper hands of my daughter Hannah Smith for and during her natural life whose receipt alone shall be sufficient in discharge for the same and the said interest and dividends shall not be liable to the debts, control or engagements of her present or any future husband. And upon the decease of my said daughter I give and bequeath the principal money unto and equally between her children share and share alike. Providing nevertheless that if at any time my said daughter Hannah should be in affliction or want and my said executors or the survivor of them his executors or administrations should deem it desirable to pay her any sum or sums of money out of the said fourth part they shall have full power from time to time to do such payments not to exceed altogether the sum of thirty pounds. And I authorise and empower my executors for the time being when any legacy under this my will has vested in any infant to please the same out at interest upon government or good security and to pay or apply the interest and dividends for the benefit of such infant notwithstanding minority with full liberty also for my said executors in their discretion to advance all or any part of the principal money for the support, education or advancement in life of any such infant notwithstanding minority.
And hereby revoking all former wills I declare this to be my last will and testament.
In witness whereof I the said Edward Minter, the testator, have hereunto set my hand this twenty third day of July one thousand eight hundred and fifty three.

X The mark of Edward Minter 
Minter, Edward (I582)
10041 There is a Miss Barbara Minter in the J Lyons & Co obituary list - said to have died 1999; Lyons Maid. Minter, Barbara Jane (I1528)
10042 There is a photo of France's grave at the Sandi Laidlaw Family Tree at Ancestry. BURTON, Frances (I1460)
10043 There is a quite major disconnect concerning one of Watson and Frances' children as listed at This source has 9 children attributed to Watson and Frances, including Joseph Warren Minter Sr, born 1823 - 1827, Virginia.
Another source, Don Chamberlayne, has Joseph Warren Minter as the son of Silas and Nancy (Stultz) Minter.
I (John Minter) am omitting Joseph Warren from the list of Watson and Frances' children (but am including the other 8).

The 1840 United States Federal Census of Henry County list Obediah MINTER as the head of a family comprising 2 males 5 - 9 years, 2 males 10 - 14 years, 1 male 20 - 29 years, 1 male 40 - 49 years, 1 female under 5, 1 female 5 - 9 years, 1 female 15 - 19 years, 1 female 40 - 49 years and 1 female 50 - 59 years.

1850 United States Federal Census of Henry County (done on 27 July 1850) (all MINTER except Polly COVINGTON), Obediah (55, farmer), Fanny (52), Polly COVINGTON (70), Joseph (23, no occupation, idiot), James F (21, farmer), Obediah E (19, farmer), Sarah F (17), Daniel S (16, farmer), Elizabeth A (12) and Jane (10). Also Nancy F ALLEN (12) and Obediah ALLEN (10).

Watson died in 1855.

1860 United States Federal Census of Henry County (done on 4 July 1860)Frances MINTER (60), Haley COOPER (30, overseer), Eliz COOPER (23), Eleanor COOPER (4), Ginett COOPER (female, 2). Also 2 SHELTON children, Jenny (8) and Jas (7).

1870 United States Federal Census of Henry County (done on 15 July 1870), in Leatherwood, Henry, Virginia: Frances MINTER (70, keeping house), P--- GILBERT (34, male, farm labor), Ann GILBERT (female, 32, at home). Plus 4 other young people. 
Minter, Watson Obediah (I1163)
10044 There is a quite major disconnect concerning one of Watson and Frances' children as listed at This source has 9 children attributed to Watson and Frances, including Joseph Warren Minter Sr, born 1823 - 1827, Virginia.
Another source, Don Chamberlayne, has Joseph Warren Minter as the son of Silas and Nancy (Stultz) Minter.
I (John Minter) am omitting Joseph Warren from the list of Watson and Frances' children (but am including the other 8). 
Minter, Watson Obediah (I1163)
10045 There is a record in the Queensland Historical Deaths Index for Christopher Charles Minter Lethbridge (son of Robert Copland Lethbridge and Ella Minter) giving 1876 as his death year, Reg. no. C1434. It's not clear whether there were two similarly named children. LETHBRIDGE, Christopher Minter (I637)
10046 There is a second IGI record for John's baptism which gives the date as 8 July 1826, at Brunswick & Park Wesleyan Chapels, Norfolk Street, Sheffield. It's not clear whether John was baptised twice but it does seem that John (sen) and Sarah's first three children were all baptised on Christmas Day 1830.

Brendan Molloy expains how John and his wife may have met: "George [John's father] had a shop and lived on Coalpit Lane with family, he made fenders across the road at Cross Burgess Street, across the road on Burgess Street lived Joseph Smith and his sister Sarah with their aunt and uncle."

January 2008: contact with Anne Thompson via Genes reunited. Anne and I are very distantly related - as Anne puts it "Your great-great-grandfather John Gregory(1826) married Sarah Smith, the sister of my great-great-grandfather Joseph Smith(1830).
It seems Joseph married Sarah Turton whose father Edward was in the same trade (making fenders) as John Gregory and John's father George, and they lived all in the same part of central Sheffield."

1861 census: at 7 Reginald Street, Eccleshall Bierlow, Sheffield, John (34, kitchen fender maker), Sarah (34), Mary Hannah (9, scholar), Fanny (3) and Sarah's brother Thomas SMITH (25, unmarried, desert knife fluter, born Sheffield).

When son John (junior) was born in 1863, John senior was a Fender maker, living at 30 Wilson Street, Brightside Bierlow. When John married in 1886, John senior was still a Fender manufacturer.

1871 census: at 10 Reginald Street, Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield, John (44, fender maker), Sarah (44), Mary H (19, domestic), Fanny (13, scholar), John (7, scholar) and Sarah's brother Thomas SMITH (35, unmarried, desert knife fluter, born Sheffield).

1881 census: at 124 Fitzalan Street, Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield, John (54, fender manufacturer employing 1 man & 1 boy), Sarah (54), Fanny (23) and John (17, forger of fenders).

1891 census: at 75 Sedan Street, Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield, John (widower, 64, fender manufacturer) and Fanny (33).

1901 census: at 51 Fox Street, Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield, John (widower, 74, fender maker on own account) and Fanny (43).

DEATH: Cause of death: senile decay, heart failure. Informant: John Gregory of 24 Thoresby Road. Age at death, 80. Retired Fender Manufacturer.

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941, at, November 2010
GREGORY John of 24 Thoresby-road Walkley-lane Sheffield died 13 June 1906 Probate London 30 July 1906 to John Gregory fender-manufacturer. Effects £1210 13s. 
GREGORY, John (I962)
10047 There is a second IGI record for Thomas's baptism which gives the date as 25 December 1831.

November 2007: Brendan Molloy, whose tree is on Genes Reunited, is connected to the Gregory family via Thomas Gregory's daughter Catherine, who married Simon Heavey from Galway, Ireland. Ann Powell, Brendan's cousin is also descended from Catherine Gregory. Both have provided a lot of additional information about the Gregorys.

1861 census: at No. 4 Court, 165 Portobello, Sheffield, Thomas (29, fender maker), Harriett (21) and Emily (4). Emily's was probably the birth registered in Q4 1856. The IGI has her baptism as 3 October 1866 - presumably a transcription error. 
GREGORY, Thomas (I1266)
10048 There is a small amount of doubt whether the 1868 marriage of Charles Minter and Martha Pearce relates to this Charles Minter. In 1861 Charles was 13 and living with his father William (and his mother and brothers and sisters) in Camberwell Lane, Lambeth. William was described as a cowkeeper (in 1871 the description was farmer, in 1881 dairyman and in 1891 retired dairyman). When Charles married he was living in Lambeth and married in the parish church of St Mary Lambeth, and would have been 18, ie (just) of full age. He gave his father's name as William, occupation dairy man.

In 1871 Martha was living in Lilford Street, Lambeth, aged 25, married, with her daughter Elizabeth aged 2. Although Martha was shown as married, Charles wasn't there and despite extensive searches cannot be found anywhere. Martha's daughter Elizabeth was born on 7 September 1868 in the Lambeth Workhouse, Princes Street. This plus the fact that Charles cannot be found in 1871 suggests that the marriage may have been one of convenience, with Charles 'disappearing' very quickly.

Post Office Directory, Surrey 1878 has Charles Minter, dairyman, Thicket Grove, Anerly Road, Upper Norwood, London SE.

By 1881 Martha, as Martha Spark, aged 36, was living with Frederick Spark and Elizabeth Minter (12) and Oliver and Lilian Spark. There is no trace of Martha and Frederick marrying (Roz Grevett, a great-granddaughter, says they never married). Also in 1881 there was a Charles Minter, aged 34, a dairyman, born Canterbury living in Thicket Grove, Penge with his wife Ellen A., 32, born Wales Bristol (Bristol isn't in Wales!). It's not clear whether Charles was free to marry Ellen in 1879. (It may be significant that when Charles married Ellen Vale in 1879 he was described in the register as 'bachelor'.) There is no trace of either of them in 1891 or 1901, but their daughter Clara has been found in 1891 and 1901 - see her Notes.

Roz Grevett adds that Frederick and Martha separated and Frederick is believed then to have married Lucretia.

One of the sons of Oliver Spark, John, was a well known thief in England and was known as Ruby Sparks. He had written a book on his life "Burglar To The Nobility" by Ruby Sparks as told to Norman Price. 
Minter, Charles (I332)
10049 There is an entry for Percy in the Taunton Deane Crematorium Online Book of Remembrance:
Minter, Percy
Born 12th June 1899 - Died 17th April 1965.
All who knew him, loved him
And those he loved - remember always

Percy's death was announced in The Times (London, England), Tuesday, Apr 20, 1965; pg. 1; Issue 56300:
On April 17th 1965, PERCY, beloved husband of DOROTHY MINTER of The View, Exton, Somerset. Service and cremation, Taunton, April 22nd, no flowers. Donations in lieu to Cancer Research.

From England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 at
Minter Percy of The View Exton near Dulverton Somerset died 7 April 1965 Administration London 23 June 1965 to Dorothy Minter widow. £1262. 
Minter, Percy (I24)
10050 There is an unresolved question about Ffloyd's birth/death dates - the record at the Australia Cemetery Index says his age at death was 10 minutes. Minter, Ffloyd (I940)

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